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Post by cdrt on 5/2/2018, 7:56 am

Shooting Sports USA just came out. NRA published rule changes for this year. The only change to Precision Pistol was this:

For the Distinguished Revolver Program competitions must occur only at National, Regional, and State Championship level matches.
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Post by Chris Miceli on 5/2/2018, 8:22 am

yea... it was pretty much a slap in the face to shooters that attended the perry competitors meeting. Rob received the biggest slap in the face from it though.
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Post by cdrt on 5/2/2018, 9:36 am

Hadn't heard about that.  Did they want to expand the program or something?
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Post by Chris Miceli on 5/2/2018, 9:47 am

Shooters and the NRA meet at Perry to discuss rule changes and other things... a lot of complaining about last years perry/nra split. All of these recommendations were well received by the NRA. I believe Rob wrote up some notes from the meeting and handed them into the Pistol committee.  We were promised lots of change, clarification and communications. One specific topic was the DR and how the rule is written about the ammo and where you can shoot the match. Then the NRA turds out that comment and nothing else.
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Post by cdrt on 5/2/2018, 10:21 am

Okay, thanks.
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Post by Slartybartfast on 5/2/2018, 11:08 am

How difficult would it be to put rules on-line and have discussion open on each rule so that discussion and decisions can be tracked?
Discussions could become proposals, proposals could be voted on, member and executive votes could be recorded.
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Post by Chris Miceli on 5/2/2018, 11:19 am

Slartybartfast wrote:How difficult would it be to put rules on-line and have discussion open on each rule so that discussion and decisions can be tracked?
Discussions could become proposals, proposals could be voted on, member and executive votes could be recorded.
I can't even get the NRA to call me back about questions i have about the rules. Thinking of them doing anything of what you said is just dreaming. We don't need every person in the world to weigh and vote on the rules. we need a pistol committee that does what they should to support and further the sport.
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Post by fc60 on 5/2/2018, 11:29 am

Greetings,

"I can't even get the NRA to call me back"

The NRA has Caller ID.

Cheers,

Dave
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Post by Chris Miceli on 5/2/2018, 11:33 am

fc60 wrote:Greetings,

"I can't even get the NRA to call me back"

The NRA has Caller ID.

Cheers,

Dave
maybe i'll drive the 15 minutes to the NRA HQ. Think i can get past the front desk?
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Post by Slartybartfast on 5/2/2018, 11:35 am

Chris Miceli wrote:
Slartybartfast wrote:How difficult would it be to put rules on-line and have discussion open on each rule so that discussion and decisions can be tracked?
Discussions could become proposals, proposals could be voted on, member and executive votes could be recorded.
I can't even get the NRA to call me back about questions i have about the rules. Thinking of them doing anything of what you said is just dreaming. We don't need every person in the world to weigh and vote on the rules. we need a pistol committee that does what they should to support and further the sport.
Yeah, a committee should be the final rule arbiters. But discussion amongst all members/competitors should be encouraged.
Don't need to open it to the whole world.
Although a "whole world" access for anyone looking to question the rules and see previous answers would be good.
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Post by James Hensler on 5/2/2018, 4:44 pm

Hey extend your membership and they will do almost anything
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Post by Multiracer on 5/2/2018, 6:17 pm

Chris Miceli wrote:
fc60 wrote:Greetings,

"I can't even get the NRA to call me back"

The NRA has Caller ID.

Cheers,

Dave
maybe i'll drive the 15 minutes to the NRA HQ. Think i can get past the front desk?

Nope, face recognition software at the front door buzzer.

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Post by Jack H on 5/2/2018, 6:54 pm


maybe i'll drive the 15 minutes to the NRA HQ. Think i can get past the front desk?

Nope, face recognition software at the front door buzzer.

Do you mean NRA does not have an inviting open door for member visitors?
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on 5/2/2018, 7:04 pm

Chris Miceli wrote:
Slartybartfast wrote:How difficult would it be to put rules on-line and have discussion open on each rule so that discussion and decisions can be tracked?
Discussions could become proposals, proposals could be voted on, member and executive votes could be recorded.
I can't even get the NRA to call me back about questions i have about the rules. Thinking of them doing anything of what you said is just dreaming. We don't need every person in the world to weigh and vote on the rules. we need a pistol committee that does what they should to support and further the sport.

Bingo.  6 months on what I considered to be a very simple, straight forward question.
CMP responded to my question in just a few days.
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Post by brassmaster on 5/2/2018, 7:41 pm

cdrt wrote:Shooting Sports USA just came out. NRA published rule changes for this year. The only change to Precision Pistol was this:

For the Distinguished Revolver Program competitions must occur only at National, Regional, and State Championship level matches.
Follow-up question: It is my understanding that a competitor does not have to enter/fire in the 2700, 1800, 900 of the Regional or State Championship to be eligible to enter the DR Match---correct?
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Post by cdrt on 5/2/2018, 9:06 pm

brassmaster wrote:
cdrt wrote:Shooting Sports USA just came out. NRA published rule changes for this year. The only change to Precision Pistol was this:

For the Distinguished Revolver Program competitions must occur only at National, Regional, and State Championship level matches.
Follow-up question: It is my understanding that a competitor does not have to enter/fire in the 2700, 1800, 900 of the Regional or State Championship to be eligible to enter the DR Match---correct?

Yep, correct.  The NRA really did not promulgate that change very well, but yes, you do not have to shoot the 2700 to shoot the DR.  They used to not charge for the DR, since you had to shoot the entire 2700 to shoot the DR.  Now, we have to send in $5 per shooter besides the regular fee of $5.50 for a state match or $8 for the Regional.  I used to charge just a $1 to pay for the targets for the DR.  Now I'm charging $6, since the paperwork is minimal and it's up to them to track the scores.
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Post by brassmaster on 5/3/2018, 8:14 am

Stepping back and looking at the BIG picture regarding DR Matches. It is my understanding as a former match director that NRA instituted the rule that DR Competitors were required to fire in the regional or state championship 2700/1800/900 normal firing program to be eligible to enter the DR Match and the reasoning behind that was if one lived on the Eastern Seaboard or reasonable traveling distance to it, there were large concentrations of regionals and state championships available and a competitor could enter a DR Match virtually every weekend and if one was an accomplished marksman with a wheel gun, they could conceivably attain a DR Badge in one shooting season. Thus, the requirement for participating in the main match was instituted in order to offer a more level playing field to competitors living in geographic areas with limited DR Match access.
The counter point to this rule was if the goal of NRA Competitive Shooting mirrors the CMP goal of expanding Precision Pistol competitive shooting participation then, eliminating the requirement that competitors must enter a regional or state championship main event to be eligible to compete in a DR Match makes sense. Although I do believe that competitors living on the Eastern Seaboard or within reasonable driving distances enjoy a distinct advantage over other geographically situated competitors, but it if it opens up competitive Precision Pistol shooting and attracts more folks and reverses the historic downward trend of the sport then, all the better.
Obviously, NRA's DR program and CMP's .22 Rimfire program have made great strides in their efforts to expand our sport by instituting two new distinguished pistol shot Badge programs. Local clubs can also reap the benefit of attracting more competitors because a local CMP Affiliated Club can sponsor four EIC Rimfire Matches per year. In the past, many competitors hung up their spurs when they attained their Service Pistol Distinguished Pistol Shot Badge. Some attained double distinguished by attaining their Distinguished Rifle Badge too. Now, many Precision Pistol shooters that had hung up their spurs have dusted them off and rejoined the competitive shooting ranks in pursuit of attaining three Distinguished Pistol Badges.
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