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38 Special DEWC Load?

Post by Aufidius on 5/12/2018, 7:31 pm

Yo!

I've searched the forum and seem to have found conflicting views. Maybe we can get clarity?

I recently inherited 2K cast DEWC and would like to put them to use. So:

1) Either use 2.7 Bullseye or 2.7 WST

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2) Load them a little proud of the case.

Anything else to know?

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T

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Re: 38 Special DEWC Load?

Post by USSR on 5/12/2018, 7:40 pm

T,

I'll give you an OAL for that "a little proud of the case": 1.18".

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Re: 38 Special DEWC Load?

Post by james r chapman on 5/12/2018, 8:00 pm

Roll crimp, or, taper if your inclined. enough to keep the bullet from moving and providing maximum powder burn.
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Re: 38 Special DEWC Load?

Post by troystaten on 5/13/2018, 12:53 am

If they are DEWC not HBWC you might try a bit hotter load, say 3 grains.

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Post by gregbenner on 5/13/2018, 3:04 pm

I've been using 2.7 Bullseye with HBWC, very accurate but smokey as all get out:shock:.  I plan to try some WST next batch. 

I'm not sure what  " proud of the case" means, but I try to copy the Winchester 38 Super Match bullets. I seat the bullet just inside the case and use a roll crimp. The SM bullets are 1.16" COAL.

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Post by USSR on 5/13/2018, 3:41 pm

gregbenner wrote:I'm not sure what  " proud of the case" means...

Means sticks out a little bit.

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Re: 38 Special DEWC Load?

Post by james r chapman on 5/13/2018, 4:54 pm

Yes, normally the cast wadcutters will be seated out of the case. I believe they might even have a crimp grooove.
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Post by fpk on 5/13/2018, 7:24 pm

I don't want to speak heresy, but...

I have a 158gr DEWC Lee mold with tumble lube grooves and I seat those just like the Remington HBWC... even with the case mouth and then crimp over the edge. Not like crazy crimp, but enough that it is there. 2.7/2.8 gr bullseye works just fine. These shoot X-ring at 25 yards.

Maybe this works cause I only shoot these out of my Model 52, and you guys are talking about another setup.

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Re: 38 Special DEWC Load?

Post by gregbenner on 5/13/2018, 8:55 pm

james r chapman wrote:Yes, normally the cast wadcutters will be seated out of the case. I believe they might even have a crimp grooove.


Thx, didn't realize that.  The ones I load are swaged I think. Any idea why a cast bullets would shoot better loaded differently? The only experience I have had with cast full wadcutters was in 32long, and I never had great success with them.

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Post by troystaten on 5/14/2018, 10:53 am

I load both so they look just like Remingtons factory 148 grain hbwc with just a little roll crimp.  For a revolver I don't think it is that critical though (which is what I use them in).

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Re: 38 Special DEWC Load?

Post by james r chapman on 5/14/2018, 11:29 am

No heretics here! Just many valued opinions that all work.
Cast bullets in revolvers I usually seat out and crimp in the groove.
Swaged, seat flush like factory. Roll crimps on both.

M52, I guess they all have to be flush
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