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Post by watercam Sun May 27, 2018 8:13 am

Does anyone use Win. 231 powder for BE? Is there a reason not to?

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Post by desben Sun May 27, 2018 11:17 am

It's accurate and meters very well. I used it for a couple of years loading 38 Special. At the 2.9gr I was using, I was getting a fair bit of unburned powder though. Maybe that's why some recommend 3.1. I've read many reports of satisfied bullseye shooters using it for .45 as well.

If you have it already, use it without reservation. If you're looking to buy, look at WST.
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Post by sbtzc Sun May 27, 2018 11:42 am

10lbs sping and slide mount

4.0 - 4.1 for 200gr lswc
4.6 for 200gr swaged (0.4515) Precision Bullets
4.6 for 185gr lswc

Win231 is usually available when others are not
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Post by watercam Sun May 27, 2018 1:04 pm

Thank you!

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Post by Multiracer Sun May 27, 2018 2:48 pm

Seems to me you would go through powder faster with those needed weights compared to others ? No ?

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Post by james r chapman Sun May 27, 2018 6:03 pm

7000 grs of powder in a lb.

I'm not too worried about a gr or two.
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Post by Multiracer Sun May 27, 2018 7:21 pm

What is the benefit of 231 ?

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Post by STEVE SAMELAK Sun May 27, 2018 7:45 pm

It's economical, meters well & goes boom.
Every one has a "magic load", mine uses 231.
I equate the question to which oil, bullet, primer, grip......question.
If you can master the basics everything else fall in line.
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Post by sbtzc Sun May 27, 2018 8:53 pm

It's clean like Clays, but you need a little hotter load to get it all burned. W231 isn't temperature sensitive like Clays. Metering out a of Dillion measure is very consistent. There isn't the smoke and grime like Bullseye. It's usually in stock.

Just my 2 cents
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Post by Orpanaut Mon May 28, 2018 8:46 am

Winchester 231 (sold under the Hodgdon brand as HP-38) is also a very popular powder for 9mm loads. It might not group the best at 50 yards but it works well on the short line.

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Post by Bullseye_Stan Mon May 28, 2018 3:09 pm

I've used W231 for 9mm.  A guy I shoot with in our local Bullseye league uses W231 in his .45.  The better shooters tend to use Bullseye, because it's not temperature sensitive; they also keep quantities of powder that far exceed mine.  For indoor shooting at 25 yards, rounds loaded with W231 aren't stopping anyone from shooting master level scores (IMO).

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Post by watercam Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:12 am

Shot my new-for-me wad gun today. 4.6gr. 231/CCI Primer/R-P brass/185 LSWC Zeros. At 50 yds. off a sand bag it did very well with six shots inside 1.5". There was some but very little unburned powder (though much less than with 4.5gr.). To eliminate that do I:

increase crimp
add a tenth more powder
try a hotter primer

Afraid to change much for fear of losing accuracy.

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Post by jglenn21 Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:18 am

If you have lead shooting under 1.5" I wouldn't change a thing.
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Post by watercam Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:25 am

Good point. Sometimes I am my own enemy!

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Post by troystaten Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:20 pm

I have used W231 and 185 grain lead SWC usually with about 4.6 grains of powder, works well and any accuracy issues are due to the loose nut pulling the trigger.

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Post by watercam Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:04 pm

That's me!

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