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1911 .32 ACP Conversion Gunsmith?

Post by Dcforman on 6/6/2018, 7:54 pm

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Read an old thread on targettalk and someone mentioned that there was a gunsmith in the US converting 1911's to 32 ACP. Anyone know who that may be? Also, why haven't we seen any 32 acp conversion for 1911's? I realize the market may be small, but it seems like someone would have done it by now. Pardon my ignorance, I don't know enough about it to know if this is a stupid question...

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Re: 1911 .32 ACP Conversion Gunsmith?

Post by LenV on 6/9/2018, 2:01 pm

The bolt has a pretty simple design. They drill a larger hole in it till about the last 1/4" then drill a smaller hole in the face aligned with the rim of the 22. The way it is made the firing pin can come out anywhere you want in the recessed face. There is a lot of extra room in the bolt for changes. Bolt is also wide enough to have a little metal left around the recessed face. I think the extractor would work with no modification but could be dressed a little.



I was ready to post this then noticed your post. I had two thoughts about the mag. I have some old style that come apart and I could probably change their internal shape (Hammer) or change top of mag completely by welding new top. This is a 32 auto mag that would replace top of 41 mag.
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Post by mpolans on 6/9/2018, 3:15 pm

I’m thinking the easiest would still be a steel slide Marvel conversion and just redesign it so as not to remove as much weight.

It’s also probably easier to add some sort of spacer to .45acp mags (probably one of the most produced mags on the planet) than figuring out how to make new ones or modify ones for a relatively low production gun.

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Post by rich.tullo on 6/9/2018, 8:21 pm

I recall seeing a converted 41 on Gun Broker I think a top Smith did it. 

Browning makes a .380 1911 I believe the frame is reduced so its not really a 1911. I would bet you can convert that into 32. Now how do you get a magazine?


http://www.browning.com/products/firearms/pistols/1911-380.html
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Re: 1911 .32 ACP Conversion Gunsmith?

Post by mpolans on 6/9/2018, 9:18 pm

rich.tullo wrote:I recall seeing a converted 41 on Gun Broker I think a top Smith did it. 

Browning makes a .380 1911 I believe the frame is reduced so its not really a 1911. I would bet you can convert that into 32. Now how do you get a magazine?


http://www.browning.com/products/firearms/pistols/1911-380.html
You really wouldn't want to try getting one of those ready for bullseye...everything on it is 85% scale.  Imagine trying to get triggers, hammers, sears, scope mounts, etc.  You may as well design something from scratch.

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Post by LenV on 6/10/2018, 12:36 am

rich.tullo wrote:I recall seeing a converted 41 on Gun Broker I think a top Smith did it. 

Browning makes a .380 1911 I believe the frame is reduced so its not really a 1911. I would bet you can convert that into 32. Now how do you get a magazine?


http://www.browning.com/products/firearms/pistols/1911-380.html
I think Bob Loveless could have made one. Famous for his knifes but had a thing about converting model 41's.

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Re: 1911 .32 ACP Conversion Gunsmith?

Post by tceva on 6/10/2018, 5:31 am

KC is real good with model 41's.  Maybe he will chime in on the feasibility of the conversion.
He probably already has one.
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Re: 1911 .32 ACP Conversion Gunsmith?

Post by Dcforman on 6/12/2018, 6:32 am

After digging, found these guys. Pretty sure they're not in business. Also, not exactly what I'd be looking for. Anyone know them?

http://www.ncggasgun.com/ultimate_32sw.htm

Link to a 32SW gas blowback conversion.

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Re: 1911 .32 ACP Conversion Gunsmith?

Post by rich.tullo on 6/12/2018, 7:13 am

What sorcery is this?
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Re: 1911 .32 ACP Conversion Gunsmith?

Post by zanemoseley on 6/12/2018, 7:28 am

That's neat. 3/8" at 50 yards, I guess that's good enough lol.

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Re: 1911 .32 ACP Conversion Gunsmith?

Post by Dr.Don on 6/12/2018, 8:46 am

A successful stacked magazine design for a rimmed or semi-rimmed cartridge must prevent "rim lock".  If the rim of the cartridge at the top of the magazine gets behind the rim of the cartridge below it, it is locked in place by that cartridge and cannot feed.  This can happen even with the puny semi-rim of the 32 acp.  I have even had it happen a couple of times with my 32 acp Pardini.  It's part of what makes handling rimmed cartridges tough in an autoloader.
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Re: 1911 .32 ACP Conversion Gunsmith?

Post by mpolans on 6/13/2018, 1:31 am

Dcforman wrote:After digging, found these guys. Pretty sure they're not in business. Also, not exactly what I'd be looking for. Anyone know them?

http://www.ncggasgun.com/ultimate_32sw.htm

Link to a 32SW gas blowback conversion.

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Really cool idea, but really old page, and no response to emails.  I tried several months ago.

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