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Decrimp WCC Match?

Post by jmdavis on Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:13 am

I am starting to use my Star more for my reloading. In the past with the Dilln I had to decrimp TZZ cases, but I could simply reload the WCC Match. Should I run them through the decrimper before reloading  using the Star?

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Mike
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Post by Wobbley on Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 am

WCC Match were usually uncrimped primers. WCC ball had crimped primers but some weren’t crimped hard so that varies.
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Post by jmdavis on Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:09 am

Thanks. That's good info.
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:15 am

jmdavis wrote:Should I run them through the decrimper before reloading  using the Star?

Thanks,
Mike

Not a bad idea.  FC, WCC and TZZ/IMI military brass often but not always, have crimped primers.
IMO, if you have quite a few cases, it may be easier to de-crimp than sort.


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Re: Decrimp WCC Match?

Post by cdrt on Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:29 pm

I was told by an old Star distributor, that the line up is such, that you do not have to decrimp when using the Star.  In most respects, he was pretty much correct, as long as you do not "speed" through the process when pulling the handle down and if you have the shell plate set, so that is just turns without too much effort, so the primer punch lines up with the case correctly.  I have reloaded WCC Ball cases without decrimping, but it can go south if you use CCI primers, since they seem to be slightly oversize and they tend to shed a small sliver of metal, which can lock up the primer arm.  I generally use Winchester primers and have never had a problem with them, unlike the CCI's.

Having said all that, it speeds up the process if you de-crimp and it just makes things more consistent, so you don't have to sort cases or worry about primers shedding small slivers that can lock things up.

It is nice when you can find WCC Match cases since they are not crimped.
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:53 pm

cdrt wrote:It is nice when you can find WCC Match cases since they are not crimped.

Crimped WCC Match




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Re: Decrimp WCC Match?

Post by jmdavis on Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:27 pm

JayhawkNavy02 wrote:
cdrt wrote:It is nice when you can find WCC Match cases since they are not crimped.

Crimped WCC Match



All the cases are pre-sorted by year. Some are lacquered. I will deprime a few of each year and check for crimp.
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Re: Decrimp WCC Match?

Post by fc60 on Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:13 pm

Greetings,

I do not see any crimp in the photo of the WCC74 MATCH. I have shot many thousand of that headstamp as is was graciously gifted to us Civilians by the National Guard.

They do have a primer sealing lacquer and sealant between the bullet and case wall.

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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:26 pm

fc60 wrote:Greetings,

I do not see any crimp in the photo of the WCC74 MATCH. I have shot many thousand of that headstamp as is was graciously gifted to us Civilians by the National Guard.  They do have a primer sealing lacquer and sealant between the bullet and case wall.


We used to issue WCC/WCC Match, FC/FC Match, and TZZ/IMI at the Fleet Matches.  Mostly TZZ/IMI now.  I'll check when I get back (on the road).
I hope, and very possible, that I may be confusing WCC and WCC Match, but it will be easy to check.  The problem I forsee is production years.   What may hold true in one year/era may not be true years/decades later.  Shouldn't be to hard to figure out once you deprime the cases.

Dave, quick question for me, is the National Guard issuing WCC Match to Civilians/retirees? 
I thought our matches were the last to support Active, Retired, and Civilians.



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Post by jglenn21 on Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:44 pm

I'm with Dave.. none of my 74 WCC match has any crimp.. same for most older WCC match at least the 78, 80, 82, 84, and 87 I have..

great brass BTW




All the plain WCC non match I've seen was crimped
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:08 pm

jglenn21 wrote:I'm with Dave.. none of my 74 WCC match has any crimp.. same for most older WCC match at least the 78, 80, 82, 84, and 87 I have.. All the plain WCC non match I've seen was crimped
 
Agreed.  If it’s all the 74-87 I’m probaby mistaken.
I’ll check when I get back but I swage them all since it’s all mixed.
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Re: Decrimp WCC Match?

Post by bruce martindale on Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:18 am

I just use a quick twist of a case prep deburring tool . This breaks the edge without removing much metal. Easy peasy

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Post by oldsalt444 on Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:34 am

Only WCC brown box hardball has crimped primers.  The WCC Match does not.  I use an RCBS primer pocket swaging die that works like a champ and doesn't wear out my fingers like the other methods can.  
WCC is excellent brass that will last a very long time. I've gotten as many as 20+ reloads on a case with typical bullseye loads.
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