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Post by Multiracer on 6/24/2018, 6:27 pm

Colt Government model, tapered rib, Ultradot 30mm.
19lb mainspring,10 lb recoil spring, 6 lb magazine spring, standard firing pin spring.

I have been trying to work a decent load up for these new light bullets, no ransom testing just off my inexperienced hand and paying attention to the slide cycle.
Accuracy seems off and ejection seems weak with 4.1 WST, accuracy gets better as you go up but seems real good and cycle is good at a high of 4.8 WST.
tested 4.1 to 4.8 30 rounds each.

The recoil did not seem to increase as the powder volume went up ?

Anyone else fooled with these little 160 G button type SWC ? 4,8G seems a bit high ?

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Post by Orpanaut on 6/24/2018, 6:46 pm

I haven't tried that bullet but I have thought about trying the IDP #10 from Missouri Bullet Company. It's a 155 grain cast .452 SWC with Hi-Tek coating.

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Post by ric1911a1 on 6/24/2018, 6:54 pm

With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.
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Post by james r chapman on 6/24/2018, 7:21 pm

ric1911a1 wrote:With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.
4.3 in mine.
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Post by Multiracer on 6/24/2018, 7:23 pm

ric1911a1 wrote:With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.

Rail, scope, spring ?

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Post by Multiracer on 6/24/2018, 7:23 pm

james r chapman wrote:
ric1911a1 wrote:With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.
4.3 in mine.

Rail, scope, spring ?

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Post by james r chapman on 6/24/2018, 7:28 pm

Clark Heavy optic, matchdot II, 
I think it's a 10#.  Exclamation

looking at my data, it's 4.37, so call it 4.4 WST
I'll try and get a velocity tomorrow, but, they move out pretty fast.
couldn't get anything lower to cycle my guns.
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Post by Multiracer on 6/24/2018, 7:37 pm

james r chapman wrote:Clark Heavy optic, matchdot II, 
I think it's a 10#.  Exclamation

looking at my data, it's 4.37, so call it 4.4 WST
I'll try and get a velocity tomorrow, but, they move out pretty fast.
couldn't get anything lower to cycle my guns.



That is the problem I am having. Thank you.

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Post by orpheoet on 6/24/2018, 10:03 pm

4.3 WST. I use a 9lb spring


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Post by jmdavis on 6/24/2018, 10:11 pm

4.3 of BE with a .469 crimp.

Curtis wadgun, Marvel Rib, 1 inch Ultradot
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Post by john bickar on 6/24/2018, 11:14 pm

4.3 452AA  Basketball

I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
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Post by orpheoet on 6/24/2018, 11:34 pm

john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA  Basketball

I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
Isn't WST the "replacement" for 452 AA?
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Post by john bickar on 6/24/2018, 11:47 pm

orpheoet wrote:
john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA  Basketball

I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
Isn't WST the "replacement" for 452 AA?
I’ll try to answer that question when I run out of 452AA. I have many thousands of Xs left.

Stay tuned.
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Post by Chris Miceli on 6/25/2018, 5:12 am

orpheoet wrote:
john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA  Basketball

I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
Isn't WST the "replacement" for 452 AA?
pretty much yes
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Post by ric1911a1 on 6/25/2018, 6:37 am

Multiracer wrote:
ric1911a1 wrote:With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.

Rail, scope, spring ?
Clark slide mount, Aimpoint H-1, 10 pound spring (I think).
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Post by Orpanaut on 6/25/2018, 8:13 am

Do the 160 grain bullets shoot any higher or lower than the 185 grain bullets at 25 yards?

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Post by james r chapman on 6/25/2018, 8:23 am

I'll let you know in a couple hours.going to the range.
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Post by james r chapman on 6/25/2018, 10:02 am

Ok. 160 DARDAS cast swc,
Avg 796 fps with 4.4 wst, .925 shoulder to base dimensions . probably a .463-.465 crimp
.Magnus #811 3.7 Bullseye .920 s.t.b dimensions same crimp, avg fps.
Same POI at 25 yards.
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Post by Orpanaut on 6/25/2018, 10:56 am

Did you notice a reduction in felt recoil with the 160 grain bullets?

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Post by jmdavis on 6/25/2018, 1:16 pm

With the same load there can be a reduction in recoil. But with 4.3 for the 160 and 3.7 or more for the 185, I don't notice less recoil. I noticed better groups in slow fire.
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Post by Wobbley on 6/25/2018, 1:31 pm

Chris Miceli wrote:
orpheoet wrote:
john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA  Basketball

I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
Isn't WST the "replacement" for 452 AA?
pretty much yes

It is the replacement for 452AA but it is not interchangeable. As others using WST have noted 4.4 seems to work but your gun may need re-springing.
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet

Post by Multiracer on 6/26/2018, 8:25 pm

john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA  Basketball

I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.


Using the 160 cast SWC ?

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Post by Multiracer on 6/26/2018, 8:27 pm

james r chapman wrote:Ok. 160 DARDAS cast swc,
Avg 796 fps with 4.4 wst, .925 shoulder to base dimensions . probably a .463-.465 crimp
.Magnus #811 3.7 Bullseye .920 s.t.b dimensions  same crimp, avg fps.
Same POI at 25 yards.

James, is that crimp dimension correct ?

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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet

Post by john bickar on 6/26/2018, 8:37 pm

Multiracer wrote:
john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA  Basketball

I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.


Using the 160 cast SWC ?

You bet.
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Post by james r chapman on 6/26/2018, 8:39 pm

I also noticed Motorcycle Dan's 160 SWC load of 4.3 Bullseye.

at some point I've got to clear my head, start using 

what the Masters are finding success with....
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