improving slow fire shooting
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Larry Lang
bking
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improving slow fire shooting
Indoor season is coming up, and this week at my club practice I shot a rimfire 900 for the first time in awhile. I am shooting T&R well (97 & up) but my slow fire is hanging in the low to mid 80's. My slowfire groups are larger than T&R, which drives me nuts. If I tighten slow fire I could see gaining 20 points, I need to do that this year.
Shooting SF at a timed pace is no solution, clearly there's something I need to train & learn. I've been working through the USMC drills & it has really helped my T&R, what are some drills to improve slow?
Thanks.
Shooting SF at a timed pace is no solution, clearly there's something I need to train & learn. I've been working through the USMC drills & it has really helped my T&R, what are some drills to improve slow?
Thanks.
bking- Posts : 44
Join date : 2011-09-02
Location : PDX
Re: improving slow fire shooting
I dry fire. Begin trigger press as the front sight or dot enters the black. Continue this as you work the dot toward the "X". Don't wait until the shot looks perfect before you squeeze. You will surely move something else.
With practice the break will happen sub consciously as the alignment is perfect. Don't try to "make" it perfect. Follow your shot plan and get out of the way.
LL
With practice the break will happen sub consciously as the alignment is perfect. Don't try to "make" it perfect. Follow your shot plan and get out of the way.
LL
Larry Lang- Posts : 198
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 84
Location : Frederickson, WA
Re: improving slow fire shooting
I would bet you are pulling the trigger too slowly and probably starting and stopping trying to get a good shot in slow. In sustained you are pulling straight through.
You need one trigger pull for all stages. It should be fast, smooth, uninterrupted and not disturb sight alignment. When you start pulling the trigger this way in slow you will see more marginal shots (dot not perfectly centered) but you will also see fewer crazy flyers.
Steve Turner
You need one trigger pull for all stages. It should be fast, smooth, uninterrupted and not disturb sight alignment. When you start pulling the trigger this way in slow you will see more marginal shots (dot not perfectly centered) but you will also see fewer crazy flyers.
Steve Turner
Re: improving slow fire shooting
I have one thing to add about my slow fire shots:
When I get my shot plan correct, and the trigger is moving to the rear, the wobble stops, and the shot breaks. If I'm doing something wrong, the dot starts to move. That's my cue to abort the shot. The key is making sure your trigger pull doesn't move the dot. I don't care if my hold isn't good enough for all 10's, but I do want to be able to call the shots. If you can do that, you are able to figure out what you did wrong if it's not a 10. Like, bad hold, thumbing, jerked trigger, broke wrist down...etc.
When I get my shot plan correct, and the trigger is moving to the rear, the wobble stops, and the shot breaks. If I'm doing something wrong, the dot starts to move. That's my cue to abort the shot. The key is making sure your trigger pull doesn't move the dot. I don't care if my hold isn't good enough for all 10's, but I do want to be able to call the shots. If you can do that, you are able to figure out what you did wrong if it's not a 10. Like, bad hold, thumbing, jerked trigger, broke wrist down...etc.
Rob Kovach- Admin
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Re: improving slow fire shooting
I put some info up on the list a long time ago, that might be of use for this topic. It was edited by someone else and provided back to me for inclusion on my site. If anyone is interested, I still promote this article as a training routine:
Improving Hold and Trigger Manipulation
Take Care,
Ed Hall
Air Force Shooting Teams
Things of Interest to Bullseye (and International) Competitors
Improving Hold and Trigger Manipulation
Take Care,
Ed Hall
Air Force Shooting Teams
Things of Interest to Bullseye (and International) Competitors
Re: improving slow fire shooting
Bking.....I feel ya....I'm at the same point....All have made good points but I feel Larry sum'd it up best.....I have started to do what he has said and my slow fire groups are getting smaller....When I shoot a dot , I start above the black and lower the dot into the center while I am sqeezeing....when shoot opens I start below the black and sqeeze as I raise the gun.....The main point is dont try to hold the gun in the center before starting the sqeeze...because what winds up happening is you slap at the trigger the moment the shoot looks right.......another thing I find helpful is putting the gun down...and starting over......yesterday I shot a 282 if my slow fire would have been better I could have hit 290....
Paper-Puncher- Posts : 321
Join date : 2011-09-22
Age : 59
Location : Ohio
Re: improving slow fire shooting
Ed Hall wrote:I put some info up on the list a long time ago, that might be of use for this topic.
That's really helpful- thanks Ed! I've seen some of your old L list posts before but I've somehow missed the pages you linked. The progressive training approach is my kind of way to work through a problem- I can see this process paying off. I'm so glad to see you on the forum and really appreciate this article. Thank you.
bking- Posts : 44
Join date : 2011-09-02
Location : PDX
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