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Post by zanemoseley on 11/3/2018, 2:33 pm

First topic message reminder :

I just got my swaging setup from Larry Blackmon, it's making some beautiful bullets. To help defer the cost of the equipment I figured I would offer some bullets for sale.

My setup converts the Speer Plinker bullets into H&N clones, they are .314 diameter and are very crisp and uniform. They make the Speers look bad to say the least. UPDATE (Dave Wilson has inspected & tested these bullets in comparison to true H&N bullets as well as his re-swaged Speer bullets, he noted some minor variations in OAL and base profile between my "clones" and the true H&N bullets, so in full disclosure mine are probably considered very close but perhaps not a 100% clone). His test targets (20 shots each) have been added below, the one listed BT-14T311 is one of his custom barrels (14 twist with a .311 bore), the second one listed BT-LORRAINE is a Factory Pardini barrel. 

Also there is some good info here about the H&N clone swaging dies.

https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t9916-sw-32long-copying-the-hn-314-hbwc-for-reloading

My setup is the same as Greg's setup, both made by Larry Balckmon.

I can either re-swage your bullets or I can provide finished bullets to help cut down on double shipping.

Swaging Only Pricing (shipping extra)
100 - $10
500 - $25
1000 - $45
2000 -$85

I can fit 500 in a flat rate box for $7.20.
I can fit probably 3,000 in a medium box for $13.65.

Current bullet prices are $70 per 1000 plus swaging. So 1000 swaged bullets shipped would be $128.65, 2000 of them shipped is $238.65. 

Before and after pictures are below along with Dave Wilson's test targets.


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Post by davidbullseye on 12/2/2018, 7:22 pm

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These are Zanes bumped up SPEER plinkers at 50 yards shot with a Benelli mp 95E in a ransom rest that kept moving around.  I had to re-aim each shot the best I could with the red dot.  The group measures 1 5/8 inches.  I think that they would have done better if the ransom rest was stable.  This was fired today when we finally had decent mid 40s weather in upstate NY.

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Post by fc60 on 12/3/2018, 12:23 pm

Greetings davidbullseye,

What brass and powder charge?

I only see five shots. Usually ten shot groups are the norm.

Cheers,

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Post by davidbullseye on 12/3/2018, 12:43 pm

Hi Dave, 

Only had time to reload 10 of these bullets and the other five I shot at 25 yards with a tighter group, but I did not think anyone was interested in 25 yard result.  I posted the picture after my email conversation with Zane.    

Brass assorted but most likely GFL from once fired Fiocchi factory with 1.35 grains of 231.  

Will reload more today, but it may be awhile before winter allows 50 yard testing.  

When I get the Ransom rest totally secured (winter permitting) I will do more testing.  In the meantime, I will use these for our 50 foot indoor league centerfire.  

David

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Post by fc60 on 12/3/2018, 6:39 pm

Greetings,

'1.35 grains of 231'!!! That's close to 1.1 grains of Bullseye.

I am impressed that the group was that good.

Very curious to learn what velocity they are traveling at.

Thanks for posting your target image.

Cheers,

Dave
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Post by davidbullseye on 12/3/2018, 9:12 pm

Sorry to say that I do not have a chronograph nor do I know anyone who does.  I am using a dillon 550B with Uniquetek's Arredondo powder bar.  I check frequently with a beam scale, the loads may vary between 1.35 and 1.4, but usually are pretty close to 1.35.  

A person on my bullseye team uses either .7 or .9 grains of VV 310 with the 98 grain Lapua. He hand measures every powder charge.  He is getting good accuracy out to 25 yards.  They are terrific at 50 feet.  Recoil is similar to a .22.  When the .45 acps are going off around him, his sounds like a pop gun.  

David

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Post by davidbullseye on 12/3/2018, 9:19 pm

Also, perhaps I just got lucky since the rest was moving and I was re-aiming!

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Post by gregbenner on 12/3/2018, 11:01 pm

I typically load 1.35 N310 for target and SL. I have generally thought that was pretty light. I think when I went lighter I seemed to more issues with powder consistency. I was using the same load with WST.   I definitely understand (have experienced) the issues with the RR. They are way more “art” than I realized. Definitely post when you get a chance to test some more, particularly 10+ round groups.

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Post by zanemoseley on 12/9/2018, 5:36 pm

Got 4000 left.

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Post by zanemoseley on 12/19/2018, 6:49 pm

Down to 2000 remaining already swaged. Guess its time to order more.

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Post by zanemoseley on 1/12/2019, 5:13 pm

Still got 2000.

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Post by zanemoseley on 3/25/2019, 11:43 am

I've updated the original post to add current bullet pricing as well as Dave's test targets he was nice enough to share. I'm low on bullets currently but have an "in stock" source I can turn around some quickly. Let me know if you have questions.

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Post by radjag on 4/5/2019, 11:00 am

Can I order 500 from you please. Let me know how to pay, etc.

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Post by zanemoseley on 4/5/2019, 11:38 am

radjag wrote:Can I order 500 from you please. Let me know how to pay, etc.

Just sent you a PM with payment instruction. 
Thanks,
Zane

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Post by zanemoseley on 8/7/2019, 5:37 pm

Bump

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Post by GlennMcD on 8/8/2019, 12:15 am

Zane - please let me know cost and how to pay for 1000.

Thanks

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Post by zanemoseley on 8/8/2019, 7:52 am

PM Sent.

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Post by zanemoseley on 8/18/2019, 8:11 pm

I've got one case of 1000 bullets left out of this last batch swaged, packed and ready to ship.

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Post by tceva on 8/19/2019, 12:34 pm

Zane,
I'll take them.
pm me details
Thanks 
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Post by zanemoseley on 8/19/2019, 12:52 pm

Sent you a PM.

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Post by zanemoseley on 1/25/2020, 11:37 am

If anyone is in need of 32 bullets now would be a good time to let me know, next month I'm going to order a batch of bullets for people. 1000 cases are most cost effective but I can do whatever.

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Post by zanemoseley on 2/17/2020, 5:45 pm

I've got a case of 1000 bullets not currently spoken for of anyone is interested.

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Post by Smokinbear on 2/19/2020, 4:54 pm

Please pm me . I’m a new k32 shooter /loader and would like to try some . Thanks

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Post by zanemoseley on 2/19/2020, 5:05 pm

PM sent.

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