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Post by 230Ball Sat 26 Jan 2019, 7:05 pm

Considering VV N330 for 9mm match loads, but have read where standard Dillon powder bars may have a problem with it.  Any suggestions on tuning the Dillon bar, or are most adapting other powder measures to their Dillon (XL650) presses?
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Post by Wobbley Sat 26 Jan 2019, 7:30 pm

Most of the rifle guys use a Hornady or RCBS Powder Measure with a case activation linkage.
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Post by 230Ball Sat 26 Jan 2019, 9:40 pm

Thanks!  That's interesting in a way. I was on the fence between a Hornady LNL and Dillon XL650.  I ended up with the Dillon, but if I stick with VV powders, I may have to use a Hornady powder measure.  No regrets regarding the Dillon... just kind of funny.
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Post by Jwhelan939 Sat 26 Jan 2019, 9:50 pm

I use a Dillon with 310, but I have the Arredondo bar. Works better than both my Hornady and standard Dillon bar did.

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Post by tray999 Sat 26 Jan 2019, 9:54 pm

Jwhelan939 wrote:I use a Dillon with 310, but I have the Arredondo bar. Works better than both my Hornady and standard Dillon bar did.

Same here....
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Post by gregbenner Sat 26 Jan 2019, 10:23 pm

I have two 550s, I load vv310 for 32 long and acp. One machine has the Dillon bar, the other has a new Arredondo. The Arredondo leaks a very minor amount of powder ( the 310 is pretty fine), the Dillon doesn’t leak at all. When loading 1.4 g, I don’t get much variance among charges, occasional 1.35 or 1.45.

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Post by 230Ball Sun 27 Jan 2019, 9:35 am

The Arrendondo appears to be the way to go, and much less expensive than a complete RCBS or Hornady powder measure.
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Post by Jwhelan939 Sun 27 Jan 2019, 10:13 am

Greg, when you got the Arredondo did you size it to fit? Or put it in tight and let it wear in?

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Post by spyer40 Sun 27 Jan 2019, 10:33 am

I've been having a little issue with VV powders also (N310 and N340).  Took the suggestions and polished the metal funnel part of the powder dispenser to a mirror finish with a dremel and Simichrome along with inside of powder bar then put a few coats of wax on it all.  Moved to a PTX powder funnel from a member here and while pretty polished I also touched it up with a cratex bit in the tube part.  Added a Uniquetek powder baffle which I also polished.  Basically anything that touched powder is polished and waxed so it flows easily.  Also bought some Novus antistatic polish and use it on the clear plastic part.  Suggested to put a ground wire on the powder drop but haven't gone there...yet.  Still get a little variance but seems to be within a tenth of a grain.  On the N310 4.18-4.26 now from my initial start and spot checking.  N340 seems to be in the same range of a tenth of a grain.

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Post by gregbenner Sun 27 Jan 2019, 11:13 am

Jwhelan939 wrote:Greg, when you got the Arredondo did you size it to fit? Or put it in tight and let it wear in?
 I put in tight, After i noticed the slight leaking I call Uniquwtek who indicated I could maybe try a different tool head. I tried a bunch of combinations of tool heads, which helped a little, finally gave up. There is a very interesting article from a guy who did a biunch of testing and comparing,of Dillon and Arredondo, and concluded Dillon slightly more accurate?  In any case, I personally wouldn’t buy one again unless I was having some type problem with the Dillon parts, which in my case I don’t.

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Post by joy2shoot Sun 27 Jan 2019, 11:32 am

I compared the X Small Dillon powder bar and the Arredondo.  Both had the UniqueTek micrometer installed.  I found that the Dillon powder bar was just slightly more consistent.  i.e. I did not find that the Arredondo was better at charge weight accuracy or consistency.  My comparison used both VV 310 and Power Pistol.  I have no experience with VV 330.

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Post by gregbenner Sun 27 Jan 2019, 5:14 pm

joy2shoot wrote:I compared the X Small Dillon powder bar and the Arredondo.  Both had the UniqueTek micrometer installed.  I found that the Dillon powder bar was just slightly more consistent.  i.e. I did not find that the Arredondo was better at charge weight accuracy or consistency.  My comparison used both VV 310 and Power Pistol.  I have no experience with VV 330.
Just to clarify, I also have the Uniquetek micrometer on both 550s. 

Attached is a very detail comparo on Dillon v Arredondo  (v RCB) for reloading 32.  This is “take2”, which he did to confirm “take1”.  His results conclude both are good, Dillon slightly more consistent. I don’t know the testor, this merely confirmed my very limited experience. It’s well worth watching.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded_uturn&v=VSJ82CY07tA

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Post by 230Ball Sun 27 Jan 2019, 8:14 pm

Greg,
Thanks for passing along the video.  I have hand-loaded many years ago using fine powders, but the progressive loader world and its nuances is new to me.  For the time being I will stick with the Dillon bar and see what happens.  If things go awry, there are plenty of COAs here to adjust fire!
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Post by weber1b Sun 27 Jan 2019, 9:29 pm

I use a Dillon 550 and load VV310. I have had zero issues with it. No leaks, no measure variance, nothing.

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