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Post by radjag on Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:48 pm

I very much enjoyed the thread "Questions on getting a S&W Model 52 working properly by mikemyers on Wed Mar 13, 2019". Seems that parts are now quite difficult to source for these fine pistols.

I have a fairly clean Model 52-2, but the trigger is a bit too light at 2lbs 1oz and it has a rather long take up.
Is there an "easy fix" to this problem or do I need to send it to a specialist?

Shells are ejected almost vertically and usually sail straight over my catcher (unless I get a lucky bounce off the range ceiling!). I guess that the only solution to that is to have someone fit a scope rail with a deflector and swap to an Ultradot?

Dave Salyer was mentioned as being an expert on these guns. Is he still taking in business and, if so, how can he be contacted?
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Post by Wobbley on Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:10 am

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David C Salyer Sr
755 Tysons Forest Dr
Rock Hill, SC 29732
Contact:David C Salyer Sr
Title:Owner
Phone:(803) 327-6902
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Post by mikemyers on Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:00 pm

This video was intended to show how to accomplish this, but if you watch the last few seconds, the sear needed replacement.

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Post by mikemyers on Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:10 pm

radjag wrote:..........Is there an "easy fix" to this problem or do I need to send it to a specialist?......
The gun that I was working on in the other thread, and the similar thread on the S&W forum, was purchased for me to learn how to work on a Model 52.   You're asking if there is an "easy fix".  A few weeks ago I was sure there was not, but it you take your time, read both of my threads, including the new information people are still sending me, the gun is not very hard to work on.  I won't say it's "simple", but it's very logical.  

I never got into the trigger area on the gun I was working on, as we found the problem(s).  Trigger was the next thing to look at.

If you're going to disassemble the gun, do NOT follow the advice on the most popular video on how to do this - it is incorrect.  Do NOT attempt to screw out the barrel bushing under all that tension from the spring; instead, remove the slide stop.  Barrel bushings are made from unobtanium, so you don't want to damage yours.

I'll ask - maybe one of the people I'm working with will be willing to write up instructions on how ti set the trigger pull.


As to Dave, yes, he is a VERY good person to send the gun to.  If it was "my" gun, it would have already been sent to him, but the gun I bought was purchased as a "project", so it's D.I.Y. (with help).
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Post by mikemyers on Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:12 pm

I wonder if anyone here knows where I can still buy a red dot sight mounting kit like you've got?
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Post by STEVE SAMELAK on Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:17 pm

mikemyers wrote:I wonder if anyone here knows where I can still buy a red dot sight mounting kit like you've got?

look at the BME scope mount web site.
I think that's what you're looking for.
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Post by radjag on Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:30 pm

Yes, that is a BME mount. Very nicely made, solid.

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Post by radjag on Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:44 pm

Thanks to Wobbly I have contacted Dave Salyer, he is taking in new business and I have shipped my model 52 to him.
Also thanks to Mike Myers for going to the trouble to document and video working on a 52. Very informative.


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Post by Wobbley on Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:58 pm

It may be a BME mount but I used a EGW for my Burris FastFire3.

http://www.egwguns.com/optima/docter/vortex-mounts/

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Post by mikemyers on Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:07 pm

STEVE SAMELAK wrote:
mikemyers wrote:I wonder if anyone here knows where I can still buy a red dot sight mounting kit like you've got?

look at the BME scope mount web site.
I think that's what you're looking for.
Found it!   Thanks.  He is out of town until April 10, but I asked him to make one for me, and we'll do the paperwork via email.  It's $75.

http://www.bme-mounts.com/sw52aimpoint.html

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Post by mikemyers on Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:47 pm

radjag wrote:.......the trigger is a bit too light at 2lbs 1oz and it has a rather long take up.
Is there an "easy fix" to this problem or do I need to send it to a specialist?......
From Don in SW forum:
"Two separate things. Adjusting the trigger pull/play is different than adjusting the trigger pull weight/pressure. Most likely you will not need to adjust the trigger weight, at the factory the gun will pick up 2lbs. fire at 2.5 lbs. 

Adjusting the trigger play requires positioning the upper and lower trigger screws to reduce excessive trigger play. You will need the proper size allen wrench (I'm not sure of the size offhand that video said 5/64") slide off and stocks off, no magazine. If the trigger play is smooth with no feeling of roughness I would leave it assembled for now. If you think there is too much play we can cover adjusting."
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Post by bruce martindale on Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:07 pm

I have found many 52s with light triggers. There are two springs that do it; the leaf in the rear and a hard to get to coil in front of the trigger bow. It's hard to disassemble the gun to stretch the front spring but it works. The rear leaf won't take much more pressure. I cut a couple small pieces of rubber bracelet and slid them in front of the bow. If they're not too thick, they'll work nicely. I am away for a match so I can't take it apart to get a picture right now. It has a scope mount in the weight slot so the slide won't come off. Remind me later and I will post. I just got back from Saudi and am tired to boot.

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Post by mikemyers on Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:12 pm

Please do remember to post the photos.   I will try to remind you, but I'm just off to India, so I might be rather tied up for a few days.  Once I get situated, I'll have a good network connection.  Saudi Arabia?  Wow.  I know how tiring those trips are.

Does Wolff make replacement springs, or is this a duplicate of a spring used anywhere else?  Springs do get old and tired, and I'm wondering how long stretching it would work?  

Yes, photos would be good.
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Post by PhotoEscape on Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:36 am

"Barrel bushings are made from unobtanium" - are you talking about this part, - https://clarkcustomguns.com/product/sw-52-barrel-bushing/?
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Post by mikemyers on Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:01 am

Good news, for those who may need one.
Thanks for posting; I didn't know that.
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