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Post by ser2711 on 4/18/2019, 1:34 am

I would like to know which is the best red dot for pistol competition to fit on my S&W 52-1

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Post by james r chapman on 4/18/2019, 4:56 am

A lot depends on your price point, otherwise Aimpoint 9000x ?
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Post by mustachio on 4/18/2019, 3:16 pm

I use a Vortex Venom 3 MOA and it works quite well.


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Post by zanemoseley on 4/18/2019, 4:53 pm

I love my Aimpoint 9000SC's but not sure I would try one on a S&W 52 due to the weight unless you use a frame mount. An Aimpoint Micro or Primary Arms MD-ADS would work well if slide mounted.

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Post by mustachio on 4/18/2019, 4:55 pm

zanemoseley wrote:I love my Aimpoint 9000SC's but not sure I would try one on a S&W 52 due to the weight unless you use a frame mount. An Aimpoint Micro or Primary Arms MD-ADS would work well if slide mounted.
That is why I use the Vortex Venom, keeps the weight down, since I have a weight on the gun.

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Post by zanemoseley on 4/18/2019, 5:15 pm

I'm not a huge fan of reflex style sights especially on a bullseye pistol. Too easy to lose the dot. I prefer the micro style dots. Different strokes for different folks.

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Post by mikemyers on 4/18/2019, 10:12 pm

mustachio wrote:........since I have a weight on the gun.
What difference do you notice with the Model 52 when you attach the weight?
I know the gun will feel heavier because it is.
I think you will notice because the weight is out front, this makes the gun feel even heavier.

What difference do you notice when shooting?
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Post by Wobbley on 4/18/2019, 11:49 pm

ser2711 wrote:I would like to know which is the best red dot for pistol competition to fit on my S&W 52-1

Like Mustachio, I use a reflex sight. Dot recovery is no better or worse than with the tube dots. The advantage is that these are light enough to be slide mounted and not affect functioning. Red dot on pistol competition 1f954610
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Post by mikemyers on 4/19/2019, 12:02 am

Question - to remove the steel sight, you loosen the tiny screw from above, then slide the sight to the right, trying not to lose the spring and plunger for the magazine disconnect.  The red dot mounts slide in from the right, but how do you lock them in place?  Even if the screw was there, it would be covered by the red dot sight.   Is it just held in place by friction?
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Post by Wobbley on 4/19/2019, 12:20 am

The mount from EGW has to be pushed in it is an interference fit. This is the tool used.

https://sightpusher.com/product/standard-handgun-sight-tool/
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Post by mikemyers on 4/19/2019, 5:23 am

How about the BME mount for the Model 52:

http://www.bme-mounts.com

http://www.bme-mounts.com/sw52-dr.html

http://www.bme-mounts.com/gallery.html


About the EGW mount:
http://www.egwguns.com/pistol-and-red-dot-mounts/viper/venom-s-w-52-sight-mount-fits-burris-fastfire-and-docter/


Side notes:
First, the EGW mount is tapered, going in from left to right, with the taper making it easier to mount and remove the mount later.

Second, assuming one wants to use an Aimpoint Micro, the EGW is not designed for that.

......which leads to a question, are the Aimpoint H1 and H2 too heavy to use on a Model 52?  Maybe the Ultradot LT would be better, as it's so small and light?
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Post by mustachio on 4/19/2019, 5:52 am

mikemyers wrote:
mustachio wrote:........since I have a weight on the gun.
What difference do you notice with the Model 52 when you attach the weight?
I know the gun will feel heavier because it is.
I think you will notice because the weight is out front, this makes the gun feel even heavier.

What difference do you notice when shooting?
with the weight the gun is heavier but well balanced. without the weight the gun has a bit more muzzle flip, which makes getting back on target somewhat longer.
with my particular loads, 2.5 gr. Bullseye and the weight, recoil is negligible and my brass simply falls directly at my feet. I have had no issues with function or accuracy with this load and the gun is a dream to shoot.
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Post by mikemyers on 4/19/2019, 6:06 am

I've been shooting Magnus #514 bullets with 2.7 grains of Bullseye.  I think you're shooting a different bullet?   I wonder if I'd notice any change if I did load with 2.5 grains of Bullseye?

I see you use a Vortex Venom sight.  How does that compare with an Ultradot LT ?
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Post by mustachio on 4/19/2019, 6:26 am

mikemyers wrote:I've been shooting Magnus #514 bullets with 2.7 grains of Bullseye.  I think you're shooting a different bullet?   I wonder if I'd notice any change if I did load with 2.5 grains of Bullseye?

I see you use a Vortex Venom sight.  How does that compare with an Ultradot LT ?
I use the Precision Delta 148 gr. HBWC or 148 gr. Hornady 148 gr. HBWC. The PD are $87/1000 and includes shipping, the least expensive I have seen the Hornady has been about $104/1000 and I have to pay shipping. I like both but have more of the PD loaded. Both are very accurate with my 2.5 gr. Bullseye powder load.

The Venom looks quite similar to the Ultradot LT, I would presume they would perform similarly, both have lifetime warranties. The Venom has a 3 MOA dot and the Ultradot has a 4 MOA dot...I like the smaller dot. On my model 41 I have the TruGlo Tru-Tec with a 3 MOA dot, much less expensive and pretty much the same as the Venom. See Pic.

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