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Post by mikemyers on 9/11/2019, 7:21 pm

I took the Model 52 (that I spent so much time working on several months ago) to the range today.  It was supposed to be just a "fun session", getting used to the Venom Vortex red dot sight that replaced the steel sights (thanks to people from the forum who had the parts I needed, and thanks to 'mustachio' who first gave me the idea of doing this).

The first rounds worked fine - the gun was SO enjoyable to shoot.  Of all my guns, I think the 52 is maybe the finest - so much work and finishing went into it.

Anyway, after a while, several round failed to fire, and there was no indent in the primer.  Nothing.  My first thought was that I hadn't really fixed it before, and it was still messing up the same way, because of the magazine disconnect parts under the sight.  I finished off my box of 50 rounds, which put a big smile on my face, to cover up the frustration that my "fix" wasn't really a fix.

So, I took it home, disassembled it, and  found the plunger that caused all the problems before, was right where it belonged.  I tested the firing pin, pushing on it from behind, and it worked smooth as a hot knife going through butter.   So, that wasn't the problem.

I disassembled it, and the bore was pretty grimy.  I tried the "plunk test", and  ouch, it totally failed.  Rounds wouldn't go down because of all the grime.  So, with a wet patch, then a bore brush, and more patches, it got to look decent.  Then I thought of the idea of using a larger brush, just to clean out the chamber.  I found a 45 cal brush, put it in one of the old S&W aluminum brush holders, with the curved circle at the end, and "screwed" it into the chamber until it had gone in as far as one of my cases, then I continued to turn it while pulling it out.  When I removed the brush, the chamber was full of "debris".  I did this several more times, until there was no more grime to remove, used patches until they came out clean, and then tried the "plunk test" again - absolutely perfect now.

So, the gun I together, and ready to try out tomorrow or Friday, along with my Caspian if I get some reloading done tonight.

Here's my questions - 

First, is a 45 brass brush the right size to use on a 38 chamber?  It worked great, but maybe a different brush would be better?  

Second, is there anything that can be done to slow down, or minimize dirt build-up in a chamber?  I was shooting "Zero brand" ammo.  I also have Federal and Magtech.  Or, I could go back to loading my own.

Third, Wilson used to make a chamber brush for 45ACP.  Is that a good way to do it, or are there better choices?
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Post by lyman1903 on 9/11/2019, 7:52 pm

may want to try a 40cal brush,
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Post by fc60 on 9/11/2019, 7:53 pm

Greetings,

A 45 brush is a bit on the large side.

Try a 10mm/40 cal pistol brush.

You will get a buildup of "crud" in the end of the chamber and forcing cone area. Look to see if the Lead fouling is not in the grooves of the barrel itself.

Another option is the use of the, now discontinued, Outers Foul Out electronic bore cleaner. There are recipes on the Internet for making your own electrolyte for the Lead removal.

Be aware that the Electrolyte contains Lead and the use of gloves is strongly recommended.

Cheers,

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Post by DA/SA on 9/11/2019, 7:54 pm

Get a tall small diameter glass jar like an olive jar, fill it with Hoppe's #9 and just soak your barrel for at least a day.(24 hrs) Then just push some patches through it until they come out clean and the barrel will be as clean as when new.

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Post by Sa-tevp on 9/11/2019, 8:26 pm

DA/SA wrote:Get a tall small diameter glass jar like an olive jar, fill it with Hoppe's #9 and just soak your barrel for at least a day.(24 hrs) Then just push some patches through it until they come out clean and the barrel will be as clean as when new.

Too funny, I do the same thing. Shopped the grocery store for the appropriate jar. I use Hoppes #9 and Kroil, and give a few brass brush/Chore Boy strokes before soaking to give the solvents a running start.

You may want to have it in an area it can't tip over.
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Post by lanjo on 9/11/2019, 8:45 pm

I also agree with the Hoppes #9 soak.  I put the barrel in a small sandwich Ziploc baggie with just enough solvent to submerge the barrel.  Soak for 24 hours.  Next day brush a few times then patch and the barrel is squeaky clean.

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Post by mikemyers on 9/11/2019, 8:59 pm

Thanks; when my barrel had lead in it a while back, I bought a rubber stopper which plugged one end, and I let it sit overnight filled with Kroil.  

Right now, the barrel looks great - my concern was the chamber.  I'll buy a 40-cal brush and see if it works at least as well as the 45.  

I didn't think the chamber could have had lead on it - I assumed it was just fouling from having shot the gun.  At most, I've shot it for 150 to 200 rounds since I last cleaned it.


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Post by DA/SA on 9/11/2019, 9:24 pm

mikemyers "Right now, the barrel looks great - my concern was the chamber. "


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Soaking it in a jar will clean the chamber as well!  Smile


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Post by BE Mike on 9/12/2019, 7:04 am

FYI, Hobby Lobby has a lot of neat glass jars that can be used for this purpose. If you don't need something with a lid, some of their glass flower vases work.


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Post by oldsalt444 on 9/12/2019, 10:44 am

Another way is to take a 40 cal. brush, chuck it into a drill, dip in solvent and ream out the crud.  It won't hurt the chamber using a typical bronze brush.  DO NOT use a stainless steel brush.
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Post by toughmandave on 9/12/2019, 11:16 pm

Here is what I did.  Order a bore brush (chamber flex-hone) from Brush Research Manufacturing.   brushresearch.com    $30.00  Place it in your power drill and with some hone oil you will have a clean bore/chamber in just a few strokes.  You won't believe what comes out and the polish job is awesome.

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Post by jglenn21 on 9/13/2019, 9:17 am

While.i use the flex hones to polish both rifle and pistol chambers I would not use them in any bore.  Polishing does remove material however slight
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