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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:09 pm

DanWesson, Springfield, Kimber, Smith and Wesson, Sig Sauer. Any problems with any of these 1911? I am considering buying a Target 45.


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Post by james r chapman on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:11 pm

No, have you tried Accuracy X?
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Post by weber1b on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:12 pm

They are all good names and make good products. Dollar and quality combined I think you would look at the Springfield Range Officer line first. Good quality and a high level of accuracy out of the box and well suited for upgrades as your skills improve.

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Post by messenger on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:15 pm

Off the shelf, stock, you will be disappointed. All of those can be turned into an accurate wad gun by a good Bullseye pistol smith. If you are getting started in Bullseye I would suggest you look for a used wad gun.

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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:31 pm

I just bought a CZ Shadow 2 Accushadow. Hands down it is the finest 9mm target gun I ever shot. The trigger is unbelievable smooth in both single and double action. Its a heavy pistol that tames the recoil big time. We were getting outstanding groups with it at 50 yards. 15 yard groups almost the same hole.The pistol shoots better than I can. Everyone who shoots it says WOW. I am looking for a nice 1911 target gun..


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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:33 pm

What the heck is a wad gun?

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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:44 pm

I want to spend around $1000 to $1400.

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Post by DA/SA on Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:07 pm

smsnyder wrote:What the heck is a wad gun?

Most commonly a 1911 set up to shoot .45 ACP Semi Wad Cutter projectiles for NRA Precision Pistol competition and has a Picatinny/Weaver rail with a red dot scope attached.

Type "wad gun" in the search box.

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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:12 pm

I did. Nothing comes up. Why shot wad cutters over regular bullets?

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Post by weber1b on Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:25 pm

Search it as a single word. Semi wadcutters are more accurate than "regular" bullets and are the preferred load for most reloaders shooting 45 ACP.

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Post by adminbot1911 on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:10 pm

smsnyder wrote:DanWesson, Springfield, Kimber, Smith and Wesson, Sig Sauer. Any problems with any of these 1911? I am considering buying a Target 45.
Maybe I'm going crazy but I thought you had a perfectly fine Kimber .45 target and were looking at trigger jobs and everything?
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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:15 pm

No sold the kimber. The trigger sucked.

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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:16 pm

No gunsmith I could find would work on a kimber trigger.

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Post by LenV on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:23 pm

Best bet was to find a different gunsmith. I see you tried but I still have to shake my head. There is no difference between a Kimber and a RO trigger. The difference is in the grip safety but has zero to do with the trigger.

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Post by adminbot1911 on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:28 pm

Weird, didn't know that was a thing. If it came to that then I'd just get a new trigger from KC or someone. 

But to answer your question, of all of the brands you listed above, I only have experience with Springfield, Smith, and Kimber. I prefer the Springfield as do many many others. There's a sticky here on the forums on modifications to the RO, I recommend checking it out.

Or you could go straight to Accuracy X. Definitely can not blame the gun if you do that
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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:34 pm

Do they have financing on a accuracy x pistols for 5 years. Lol

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Post by Olde Pilot on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:38 pm

Kimber Triggers have MIM parts which I understand a gunsmith would not attempt to modify/improve. However, drop in parts from KC, Cylinder & Slide, Les Baer, EGW and many others can result in an excellent trigger. Respectfully, selling a fine 1911 because you"couldn't find a gunsmith to work on your Kimber trigger" means you didn't ask the right questions or explain what you wanted. Should be a gunsmith on practically every corner who would gladly install quality replacement parts. And, why not do it yourself?

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Post by LenV on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:49 pm

I found one for you to look at. The Limited Edition Kimber Target Match was made by Kimber's version of their performance center and are just flat nice shooting. They only made 1000 of them and are pure series 70. No grip safety firing pin disablers like their II series. Mine was the 188th one made. This one looks like 0066. I have zero financial interest. These are really well finished and fitted pistols.

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Post by radjag on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:53 pm

The brand name of the popular 1911 guns is not particularly important. Almost all "off the shelf" 1911's do not work well for Bullseye (I tried several before I was introduced to someone who knew what they were talking about! Then sold them all!). Look at the many photos around this forum and you will see that almost all Experts and Masters are using 1911's which have been accurised by a Bullseye gunsmith and fitted with a scope rail and (most often) an Ultradot sight. Why - because that is what has been proven to work!

The Springfield Armory Range Officer 1911 has been recommended countless times on this forum by shooters and specialist gunsmiths as being the most suitable candidate gun for relatively inexpensive accurising. Gunsmith Dave Salyer, for example, will upgrade a SARO for you quite quickly and at reasonable cost.

There are several other specialist gunsmiths - on the West Coast Roddy Toyota and Jon Eulette are well known, but they are in big demand and very busy (they are both regular contributors to this forum) - I cannot speak for the East Coast.

There may well be other solutions, but IMHO the simplest, cheapest, fastest and best solution for anyone starting out in Bullseye and likely to be shooting at Marksman or Expert level is to get a SARO 1911 and have it accurised by a Bullseye specialist.

Oh, and please actually go and shoot a Bullseye 2700 match (you can shoot it all with your 22 if you prefer - good plan). See for yourself what others are using and learn more about the game.

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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:55 pm

I really don't like stainless steel guns either

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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:08 pm

Is there a reason you guys don't mention colt gold cup national match. Are they outdated guns?

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Post by james r chapman on Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:09 pm

Earl, why don't you just list what you want, likes and dislikes, make it much easier for us to help you.
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Springfield Armory Range officer, send it off to Dave Salyer, tell him you want something that you can put a red dot on. That will shoot good with 200 gr lead SWC and he will fix you up.
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Post by james r chapman on Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:10 pm

Because the current Colt Gold Cup National Match carries only the name of it's esteemed predecessor....
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Post by LenV on Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:11 pm

I couldn't figure out why you said that about stainless then I remembered that the idiot that listed the Target Match did a cut and paste on a SS Target II and threw that in with the description. No Stainless on the KTM.
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Post by smsnyder on Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:23 pm

The only pistols I am impressed with so far is the cz Shadow 2 accushadow. I don't think there is a better 9mm target gun out there. I will die with this pistol. Next I am really impressed with my smith and wesson model 41 with built in rail. I put a leupold delta point 2.5 moa red dot on it. It's a tack driver but heavy. Last but not least is my walther Exesse pistol. Amazing accuracy with a super trigger.

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