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Post by James Hensler on 10/8/2019, 8:05 pm

I am fortunate to be able to shoot 3-4 days a week and have for several years. My Stainless R1 Enhanced is in need of a face lift. I was thinking of getting a set of plates and peen my frame to tighten it back up. Then I read that in some cases peening a Stainless frame might lead to cracking. So in some research I read about accurails. What are your thoughts on this? John said to laser weld the frame but I don’t think that’s what I want to do here.
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Post by Jon Eulette on 10/8/2019, 8:22 pm

Peening SS typically won't stay tight. I'm not a big accurail fan. Laser welding ends up being very close to a custom frame/slide build.
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Post by Wobbley on 10/8/2019, 9:06 pm

If you do weld it, weld with a similar family of alloy. It is very likely that the frame is made from a 400 series alloy.
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Post by mpolans on 10/8/2019, 11:31 pm

Jon Eulette wrote:Peening SS typically won't stay tight. I'm not a big accurail fan. Laser welding ends up being very close to a custom frame/slide build.
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Why don't you like accurails?

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Post by Wobbley on 10/9/2019, 12:16 am

Can’t say personally but my guess is that it’s the same amount of work as welding the frame rails and refitting. Welding and refitting also would give better control,over the outcome.
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Post by Outthere on 10/9/2019, 6:08 am

With the amount of skilled labor involved, it may be cheaper just to start over with a new R/O.

Just a thought.

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Post by James Hensler on 10/9/2019, 6:14 am

I am getting a R/O in a few months but I also want to tighten my R1 up. I am still shooting 850’s with it
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Post by BE Mike on 10/9/2019, 8:21 am

I had Alex Hamilton recommend Accurails as an alternative to welding and recutting the rails. I had it done on an old ball gun and can highly recommend them. The slide is tight, like a bank vault and feels like it is moving on ball bearings. Larry Carter, RIP, also had all of his 1911's Accurailed.


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Post by JKR on 10/9/2019, 9:37 am

My old KC wad gun became very loose after a zillion rounds. I sent it back to KC who recommended welding. It came back to me very tight and smooth. Cost which included having it re parkerized, probably approached the cost of a new RO.

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Post by chiz1180 on 10/9/2019, 9:38 am

Properly welding stainless more difficult than typical steel. To someone of proper skill it should not a problem, but good quality workmanship has a higher price tag. I personally do not have experience with accurails, but it seems to be a very specialized install. If it where my money, I would put it toward a dedicated bullseye build, probably end up with a better overall gun in the end.

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Post by James Hensler on 10/9/2019, 10:43 am

All valid responses
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Post by David R on 10/9/2019, 10:54 am

My gold cup is going out for accuracies this week.   

Stainless can gall, so for me it was an easy decision.  

I like stainless guns.    

I am a TIG welder.   That fine of a bead is beyond my skill level. 
I have experienced enough warping welding stainless that I would not do it.      EDM welding would be fine.   

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Post by James Hensler on 10/9/2019, 12:00 pm

That’s why I am doing the Accurails! How much is it going to cost me
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Post by oldsalt444 on 10/9/2019, 12:12 pm

Accurails work. IMHO, they're your best option for a stainless gun.  I have an old AMT Hardballer stainless that I had Accurails installed and fitted a Kart barrel & bushing. Night and day difference in accuracy.  I went distinguished with that gun. 

The cost back then was $250, several years ago.
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Post by James Hensler on 10/9/2019, 12:15 pm

I think 250 gets me the rails but how much is the machine work
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Post by oldsalt444 on 10/9/2019, 12:18 pm

James Hensler wrote:I think 250 gets me the rails but how much is the machine work

Work was included.
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Post by James Hensler on 10/9/2019, 12:31 pm

Really? Wow! I just saw a guy charging 400
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Post by james r chapman on 10/9/2019, 12:36 pm

http://acc-u-rail.com/
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Post by James Hensler on 10/9/2019, 1:27 pm

I left a message already. He is closed on Wednesday
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Post by rreid on 10/9/2019, 7:41 pm

I had accu rails done on an old Kimber pistol a few years ago. I think it was around $220 and didn't require refinishing. The gun shoots under 2" groups with a Kart ez-fit barrel. If the rails loosen up over time, I can send it back and have a larger diameter rod installed.
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Post by Wes Lorenz on 10/9/2019, 9:57 pm

David R wrote:My gold cup is going out for accuracies this week.   

Stainless can gall, so for me it was an easy decision.  

I like stainless guns.    

I am a TIG welder.   That fine of a bead is beyond my skill level. 
I have experienced enough warping welding stainless that I would not do it.      EDM welding would be fine.   

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I'm a TIG welder also. I'm pretty sure stainless frames are made from heat treatable 416 ss which is alloyed with sulfur to give it a free-machining attribute. If they are made from 410 ss it would be easily welded.
I have an Accu-railed wad gun that was done 25 years ago and is still tight.

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Post by James Hensler on 10/10/2019, 3:56 pm

So I talked to Doug today and after my next 2 matches I am sending him my R1! I was expecting a larger bill but no it’s not at all! Actually I am very impressed with the price. 3-4 weeks turn time
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Post by Allgoodhits on 10/10/2019, 5:48 pm

James Hensler wrote:So I talked to Doug today and after my next 2 matches I am sending him my R1! I was expecting a larger bill but no it’s not at all! Actually I am very impressed with the price. 3-4 weeks turn time

Doug Jones does good work. He also builds guns.
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Post by Stee on 10/13/2019, 8:48 pm

Doug cut a six inch slide for my colt.. I can attest to his great work

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Post by Stee on 10/13/2019, 8:50 pm

Alton Dinan installed accurails in 1970 on the 4.5 inch barrel of my fathers.. frame is 1917 and shoots like a dream still.

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