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Post by Milenfive on Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:48 pm

Where can I find the rules for "as issued 1911 match" that I've heard talk about with the CMP?

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Post by Founder on Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:51 pm

http://thecmp.org/competitions/cmp-competitions-rulebooks/

in the "CMP GAMES" rulebook
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Post by Milenfive on Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:23 pm

Founder wrote:http://thecmp.org/competitions/cmp-competitions-rulebooks/

in the "CMP GAMES" rulebook
Rob at more than a quick glance I saw no mention of a "as issued match"
I'm wanting to know can I go out and Buy another gun. :-)
Do I need a Dattner CMP 1911?

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Post by Rotwang on Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:57 pm

Starts at the bottom of page 61.  Section 7.0

And that is the cmp games rulebook

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Post by jglenn21 on Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:07 pm

Springfield military model works
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Post by Asa Yam on Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:24 pm

YAWN.....

Another STUPID Games match...

So, how long before some gamer spends $2000 to build the "ultimate" "As Issued" 1911?

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Post by Slartybartfast on Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:00 pm

Asa Yam wrote:YAWN.....

Another STUPID Games match...

So, how long before some gamer spends $2000 to build the "ultimate" "As Issued" 1911?
This match isn't new. And there's really no reason to be obnoxiously dismissive of a match that people do participate in.
A bit difficult to "spend $2000 to build the "ultimate" "As Issued" 1911" when the rule is"
The pistol must be in as-issued or “factory stock” condition, with standard grips and non-adjustable sights and without specialized match conditioning or accurizing features;
Don't like the matches at the CMP Games? Don't go. Simple as that.
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Post by Jack H on Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:25 pm

I do not see that there is a pistol match at these "Games".

https://thecmp.org/competitions/cmp-travel-games/western-games/

Arizona, real close to the PNW, even IF there was pistol.
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Post by jglenn21 on Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:05 pm

Nope no pistol at all.

I will say the as issued pistol matches have drawn some interest from the EIC shooters at least at Talladega Park.. heck if you travel the least bit to the park you will shoot what you can
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Post by Wobbley on Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:36 pm

If the CMP is listening, if they ran an “as issued” EIC pistol match during these “Games” it would help Bullseye by attracting new shooters to Bullseye.  Make them 4 point legs and you can only get one.  You have to use an “as issued”, metallic fixed sight pistol (currently listed on the CMP approved list) and have no cutoff score other than the top finisher must shoot 250 or better.
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Post by cdrt on Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:39 pm

This tournment is held in October.
The CMP Cup & CMP Games Matches- Oklahoma, sponsored by the Civilian Marksmanship Program, will be held at the Oklahoma City Gun Club.
The CMP Cup Matches includes two CMP 800 Aggregate Matches followed by a 4-Man Team Match and an EIC Service Rifle Match.  Following the CMP Cup Matches are the CMP Games Matches.  The CMP Games Matches include Small Arms Firing School (SAFS), Garand/Springfield/Vintage/Modern Military Matches, Carbine Match, Rimfire Sporter match and Vintage Sniper Team Match.  There are also several pistol matches for competitors to fire in including CMP As-Issued 1911 Pistol Match, Military & Police Service Pistol Match, 40 Shot Pistol Match, EIC Service Pistol Match, CMP .22 Rimfire Pistol EIC Match and Pistol 2-Man Team Match.
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Post by Slartybartfast on Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:28 pm

Wobbley wrote:If the CMP is listening, if they ran an “as issued” EIC pistol match during these “Games” it would help Bullseye by attracting new shooters to Bullseye.  Make them 4 point legs and you can only get one.  You have to use an “as issued”, metallic fixed sight pistol (currently listed on the CMP approved list) and have no cutoff score other than the top finisher must shoot 250 or better.
Start running Match Pistol Matches at a range alongside run-and-gun events. Make it a bragging rights challenge for all present. That could attract some to precision pistol shooting.
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Post by CO1Mtn on Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:22 am

Wobbley wrote:If the CMP is listening, if they ran an “as issued” EIC pistol match during these “Games” it would help Bullseye by attracting new shooters to Bullseye.  Make them 4 point legs and you can only get one.  You have to use an “as issued”, metallic fixed sight pistol (currently listed on the CMP approved list) and have no cutoff score other than the top finisher must shoot 250 or better.
I believe that would be called an "elementary EIC match," correct? I shot in a few of those but did not win. We were given rack-issue pistols.
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Post by LenV on Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:32 am

I still have my " General Patton". It would be fun to shoot. The chrome and pearl might be a little distracting. My only "issued" 1911's were built by National Match armorers. I sure didn't want to give them back.

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Post by cdrt on Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:49 am

CO1Mtn wrote:
Wobbley wrote:If the CMP is listening, if they ran an “as issued” EIC pistol match during these “Games” it would help Bullseye by attracting new shooters to Bullseye.  Make them 4 point legs and you can only get one.  You have to use an “as issued”, metallic fixed sight pistol (currently listed on the CMP approved list) and have no cutoff score other than the top finisher must shoot 250 or better.
I believe that would be called an "elementary EIC match," correct? I shot in a few of those but did not win. We were given rack-issue pistols.
It's called the Special EIC Match; used to be the Introductory EIC match in older rule books, IIRC.

7.2.1 As-Issued M9 Service Pistol, 9mm
The M9 Service Pistol, chambered for the 9mm pistol cartridge, in as-issued condition, is used in the Pistol Small Arms Firing School and in the M9 Pistol Special EIC Match.
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Post by Jack H on Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:59 am

I have a 1980ish Colt Govt 1911, and a 92M9 ready to go.  Both are used so I have no idea how much trigger work has gone on inside.  Smile
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