Problems with WLP primers

Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Problems with WLP primers

Post by Vinkemulder on 1/12/2020, 10:18 pm

I have heard that many people have had problems with WLP primers.   In the posts I have read, they have been with loading.  Is there a performance issue as well?  If so, what is it?  

I am current using them with no problems.  But it is time to buy more and I am wondering if it's better to make a change.
Vinkemulder
Vinkemulder

Posts : 12
Join date : 2019-12-10
Location : West Michigan

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by JKR on 1/13/2020, 5:47 am

I load for myself and two others. I’ve loaded several flats(5000 primers) through a 550 without a single problem. Not a single misfire that I’ve heard of.

JKR

Posts : 445
Join date : 2015-01-13
Location : Northern Wisconsin

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by David R on 1/13/2020, 7:26 am

What  he said above.   All I use are Winchester.

David
David R
David R

Posts : 212
Join date : 2018-12-10
Age : 59

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by BE Mike on 1/13/2020, 8:34 am

I've predominately used WLP for decades. I've loaded tens of thousands of them mostly for .45 ACP bullseye pistol loads. I used the nickel plated ones and then when they changed to bare brass, I stuck with them. They always worked well with Dillon presses and back when I was machine rest testing, the ones used for .45 ACP always seem to produce good groups with the right bullet, powder, brass combo. I also use them to load .44 Mag. I remember getting a 3" 12 shot group at 50 yards, hand held from my 5" S&W 629. I was using Magnus bullets at the time. There is nothing wrong with other primers, but Winchesters have always been adequate for my purposes. One caveat is that the only time I've had them not ignite is when I was getting tired during a long loading session and didn't get a few seated sufficiently enough (my fault alone).
BE Mike
BE Mike

Posts : 1714
Join date : 2011-07-29
Location : Indiana

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by James Hensler on 1/13/2020, 8:54 am

I quit using them a few years ago. I did have a couple to maybe 5 not go boom. Thankfully it was in practice. I can remember I loaded them back in my mags and they still didn’t go boom. Now this wasn’t all the same time maybe 5 in a few years. I switched to blue box federal and haven’t had one
James Hensler
James Hensler

Posts : 481
Join date : 2018-01-15
Age : 50
Location : Southwest Florida

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by cdrt on 1/13/2020, 9:02 am

I've been using Winchester primers since 1975. I've never had one not go boom.
cdrt
cdrt

Posts : 634
Join date : 2016-04-12
Location : Amarillo, Texas

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by mspingeld on 1/13/2020, 9:03 am

I had a lot of soft hits with WLP. No issues with CCI. YMMV

mspingeld

Posts : 479
Join date : 2014-04-19
Age : 59
Location : New Jersey

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by jglenn21 on 1/13/2020, 9:56 am

Other than the old S&W Alcan primers back in the 70s, I've run nothing but Win primers on all my standard rifles and pistols. I do use federal match for my high power match loads..Never had any issues with the Win..
jglenn21
jglenn21

Posts : 1931
Join date : 2015-04-07
Age : 71
Location : monroe , ga

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by spursnguns on 1/13/2020, 11:47 am

Hello Vinkemulder,

Not to dog pile but I've used Winchester primers exclusively for decades and have had nothing but excellent results.  No issues whatsoever.

Jim
spursnguns
spursnguns

Posts : 421
Join date : 2013-01-04
Age : 61
Location : Gilroy, California

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by troystaten on 1/13/2020, 1:16 pm

I have used 1000's of them and have not had any problems, a friend of mine did have some problems with them but it could have been a moisture issue when he loaded cases that had been washed in an ultra sonic cleaner and loaded them when the cases where not dry.  Of course now that I have typed this I will have a problem Rolling Eyes

troystaten

Posts : 444
Join date : 2012-04-18

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by orpheoet on 1/14/2020, 8:22 am

I also exclusively use Winchester primers. Never an issue and I shoot a fair amount of revolver.
orpheoet
orpheoet

Posts : 844
Join date : 2014-07-29
Age : 52
Location : Berea, Oh

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by blindshooter on 1/14/2020, 7:39 pm

I bought some around 2008 when they were hard to find, just one box. didn't get around to loading them until about 2013. Mild load of TG under a 200 lswc in mixed cases. All went bang ok. When I was cleaning the gun, a fairly new SA RO, I noticed pitting on breech face. Go to the bucket of brass and find several like the picture shows (hope I did that right).
You can search around and find several folks that had this problem, some got WW to pay for repairs. In my case the pitting was caught early and it don't bother the function at all. I found that the problem was much worse in the Remington cases, they have a more pronounced radius at pocket mouth.
Not bad mouthing WW, I shot many thousands of them without issues until this lot and never had one fail to go off. However I have switched to CCI for LP.
Attachments
Problems with WLP primers Attachment
45acp_cracked primer resized.jpg You don't have permission to download attachments.(136 Kb) Downloaded 8 times

blindshooter

Posts : 56
Join date : 2016-03-15

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by weber1b on 1/15/2020, 12:34 pm

My only issue with Winchester Primers is in loading they had a greater tendency to flip over or sideways in my Dillon 550. Not a lot of them, but any is too many to me. Never an issue with CCI. I never experienced any firing issues but decided based on this to stick with CCI.

weber1b

Posts : 403
Join date : 2015-10-03
Location : Naperville, IL

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by Steve B on 1/16/2020, 1:39 pm

I've had primer flipping issues with all brands on my 650.  I found that the threaded cap on top of the primer tube needs to be snugged down not loose, after that the problem completely disappeared.  As for WLP specifically, like many others that have responded, I've used cases of these and greatly prefer them over all other brands (I've tried them all).  Never had an issue with a light strike, use them in 45 and 44 magnum revolver loads.  They give a much cleaner powder burner with light loads than Federal or CCI.  Velocities are more consistent.

Steve B

Posts : 423
Join date : 2011-06-16
Location : Elkhart, IN

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by bruce martindale on 1/16/2020, 4:25 pm

I had changed the carrier on my Loadmaster and started having light hits ( flinch detectors) that went off the second time. My problem wasn't the primer but the seating depth. Slightly proud absorbed the strike. So you may have a similar issue, especially if you change brands; a carbon ring can be present that prevents full depth seating of a new brand primer. You can sometimes feel that by reseating with a Hand priming tool. I have never had a primer go off but they can move in a tad. Good luck

bruce martindale

Posts : 449
Join date : 2011-07-29
Location : Upstate NY

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by Jwhelan939 on 1/16/2020, 8:05 pm

Ditto, dozens of cases without issue.

Jwhelan939

Posts : 517
Join date : 2013-04-27
Age : 36
Location : Pipersville, PA

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by jglenn21 on 1/17/2020, 8:53 am

Polishing the inside of new primer tubes on a dillon will resolve many feed issues
jglenn21
jglenn21

Posts : 1931
Join date : 2015-04-07
Age : 71
Location : monroe , ga

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by Vinkemulder on 1/19/2020, 12:11 pm

Thanks for all the replies,   Please feel free to correct me here.  But, to summarize, there was a bad batch or two back in the primer shortage years (2008-2013).  Since then then they have been functioning properly with respects to igniting powder.  The only remaining issues are with loading.  Correct?

Thanks,

Jason Vinkemulder
Vinkemulder
Vinkemulder

Posts : 12
Join date : 2019-12-10
Location : West Michigan

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by blindshooter on 1/23/2020, 6:14 am

In my case, if I had not caught the bad primers early they would have ruined a slide. I can deal with all the other loading issues and I never had one fail to fire. I loaded many thousands in LR and LP before the splitting issue. I can deal with a lot but messing up my gun is not one of them. Not saying I won't find a problem with another brand but no more Win LP for me.

blindshooter

Posts : 56
Join date : 2016-03-15

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by Vinkemulder on 1/23/2020, 2:10 pm

blindshooter wrote:In my case, if I had not caught the bad primers early they would have ruined a slide. I can deal with all the other loading issues and I never had one fail to fire. I loaded many thousands in LR and LP before the splitting issue. I can deal with a lot but messing up my gun is not one of them. Not saying I won't find a problem with another brand but no more Win LP for me.

Thank you for posting... I had only heard vague references to WLP being "bad"  You spell it right out.

Thanks,
JV
Vinkemulder
Vinkemulder

Posts : 12
Join date : 2019-12-10
Location : West Michigan

Back to top Go down

Problems with WLP primers Empty Re: Problems with WLP primers

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum