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Post by smsnyder on 1/15/2020, 4:07 pm

Who makes slim design light weight shooting ear muffs that are comfortable to wear? I don't need electronic earmuffs. Thanks

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Post by Asa Yam on 1/15/2020, 8:18 pm

Peltor makes some nice slim muffs.  NRR with them is low, so plan on wearing plugs underneath.  Listed websites are random, prices are not necessarily the lowest.

  • Shotgunner II - NRR 24 dB:  https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018236727?pid=614811;
  • Tactical 6S electronic - NRR 19 dB:  https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1015227877?pid=157547;
  • RangeGuard electronic - NRR 21 dB:  https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016345246?pid=574542;
  • Sport Tactical 100 electronic - NRR 22 dB:  https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016169057?pid=863017;
  • Sport Tactical 300 electronic - NRR 24 dB:  https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018452753?pid=923169;
  • Tactical Sport electronic* - NRR 20 dB:  https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-97451-Tactical-Sport-Earmuff/dp/B000Q04MRG;
  • ComTac III electronic - NRR 20 dB:  https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1062288234.


* = The Tactical Sport is listed as "discontinued" on some websites, but are still sold by other retailers.

If using earplugs underneath, electronic muffs are highly advised, as you can still hear line commands with them.

Hope this helps.

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Post by smsnyder on 1/15/2020, 8:27 pm

I lost 80% off my hearing because of chemo treatsments due to throat cancer. Caused by agent orange exposure in Vietnam. Just got my new hearing aids from the VA. Wow they cost $8000 plus. There wonderful. I heard myself fart for the first time. Sounded like an atomic bomb went off. LOL. Just need some good ear muffs to save the rest of my hearing. Thanks a bunch

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Post by LenV on 1/16/2020, 12:24 am

Good and light shouldn't be in the same sentence. I lost most of my hearing in Vietnam also. Main gun on M-60. They really do sound like a bomb going off. Laughing I wear Clarks. The heavy ones.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/David-Clark-Hearing-Protector-Model-19A-12452G-01/163733719893?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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Post by Jack H on 1/16/2020, 2:30 am

I lost a good share of my hearing from measles as a baby.  I have never known what good hearing is.  $7000 hearing aids in my case do not do a real good job and never will according to my audiologist.
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Post by mikemyers on 1/16/2020, 12:11 pm

I don't know for anyone else, but my search for ear muffs always started with the NRR rating, and then comparing the best ones I found.  Twice now I've ended up buying Howard Leight muffs.  From Amazon they are reasonably priced, and if you wear earplugs under them, for the best protection, as was noted up above, the electronic speakers allow you to hear the range commands, which is sorta important...

I think LenV nailed it.  Decide what's most important, then select one you like.  The words "cheap" and "light" maybe should be left out of your search.  

I posted a thread here recently trying to find anything better than the Howard Leight I ended up buying last time.  Less costly now, and it now has a battery cut-off switch built in.
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Post by LenV on 1/16/2020, 1:10 pm

Mike, the NRR rating is neat but it can be messed with. That old saying "figures don't lie but liars figure" You can buy in-expensive muffs with a rating of 34 and you know that's not possible. But probably true. If you are only looking at one frequency range. Take a look at that chart near the bottom of those Clark muffs. It is the ability to cancel sounds in the lower ranges that are so important to shooters. Just something to think about when you go shopping again.

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Noise Attenuation Data
NRR
27 dB
Frequency (Hz)125250500100020003000400060008000
Attenuation (dB)17.625.030.933.936.938.439.037.735.7
Standard Deviation1.93.02.21.31.52.12.12.52.2
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Post by mikemyers on 1/16/2020, 10:52 pm

LenV, I'm *always* shopping.  I figure your opinion is more useful than all the ads and reviews lumped together.  So, if you don't mind my asking, overall, which brand and earmuffs are at the top of YOUR list, preferably with electronics.  If it's other than Howard Leight, I'll probably just order a pair when I get home.

I'm sure you're right, based on what I was told, I went looking for what I thought would be "best" for me.  I've let other people try out my old Howard Leight muffs, without the electronics, and everyone has said they work better than what they've been using.

To get the data that you feel would be most helpful in making a choice, I wouldn't know where to start.  So, I'm starting with YOU.....   hopefully!!


Added later - I'm NOT concerned about the price, or the weight, or the size, or the color, and on and on.  I am concerned that they're reasonably comfortable, I'd prefer to have electronics now that I know how useful they are, and I'd like they to do what they're designed to do, for shooters.  If there's no appreciable difference between them and what I've got now, there wouldn't be much incentive to change, but even a little bit adds up over time.
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Post by LenV on 1/16/2020, 11:06 pm

Funny you should ask. Shooting indoors for .22 matches I use my Howard Leight Electronic muffs. I need to hear the commands. Especially shooting non-turning targets. I wear the Clarks for the big guns. That is why I never left you a recommendation when you asked earlier. Very Happy

Clarks when you need a little more.

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Post by mikemyers on 1/16/2020, 11:32 pm

Awesome photo!!!!!!!

Well, is this what you use?
https://store.davidclark.com/hearing-protectors/enc-hearing-protector-40752g-01

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I assume it's better for a "land cannon" like your photo, it will also be at least as good, or better, for 22 and 38.
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Post by LenV on 1/17/2020, 1:25 am

No, I use the 19A I linked to above for non electronic. Mine are 40 years old and same model number. Updated to the gel pads.
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Post by mikemyers on 1/17/2020, 2:12 am

Unless this is something of interest to smsnyder, maybe I should start a new thread, with the information from LenV.

For the 19A:

  • Certified Noise Reduction Rating (NRR): 27 dB"


For the ENC:

  • Certified Noise Reduction Rating (NRR): 27 dB (additional noise reduction with ENC turned on)


I'll think about this for a while, and call the company when I get home.  Sorry for the interruption, but thanks for posting all that information.  I've got more things to think about for myself, even if they're not applicable to this thread.........




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Post by Wobbley on 1/17/2020, 9:41 am

One nice thing about David Clarks is that a lot of the comfort accessories that are made for aviation headsets will fit their earmuffs as well.  https://store.davidclark.com/comfort
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