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Post by croesler on 1/30/2020, 8:31 am

Interested to hear opinions about what putting a trigger shoe on a 1911 accomplished, or what unexpected negative consequences tend to arise, or maybe it doesn't make any difference?  I find the shoe provides a feeling of a lighter trigger pull, but that is one shooter's amateurish observation.
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Post by Jon Eulette on 1/30/2020, 10:09 am

I shot a trigger shoe for many years. Now only on one of my pistols. Really no difference in my opinion, just different. I do have to pull the trigger a little different not to disturb the sight alignment. A shoe typically lengthens by one size; medium trigger plus shoe equals a large standard trigger. So a shoe doesn’t magically alter shooting for most shooters but can make huge difference for others. Also can change the way a trigger pull feels. I have experienced standard trigger feeling short roll and not being able to feel the roll with a shoe on same pistol. Everybody should try one at least once seriously.
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Post by DA/SA on 1/30/2020, 10:20 am

Large hands and long fingers. I use a shoe to move the trigger foreword to a comfortable distance.

I like the feel of the added width as well.

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Post by Bigtrout on 1/31/2020, 8:06 am

FWIW.  Fronek shoes on my 1911 and revolver seem to help the trigger feel lighter and more comfortable than the narrow stock triggers.
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Post by LenV on 1/31/2020, 9:32 am

Only my Gold Cup doesn't have a shoe.

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Post by Kp321 on 1/31/2020, 9:44 am

I know that this is a bullseye forum but, trigger shoes on 1911's should only be used on bullseye guns. Some shoes extend outside the trigger guard and can cause ND's if holstered.

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Post by croesler on 1/31/2020, 9:52 am

With a few good responses to reflect on, here is what I'm noticing to add color to my original post.  First, I struggle with the 1911 platform and have determined my trigger pull is most of the problem.  Following the sage advice available on the forum, steady pressure increasing consistently until the trigger breaks (classic dry-firing practice) has been working.  I put a MANTIS X on my 1911 magazine, a dummy round in the chamber, and test my trigger actuation using the MantisX results to isolate slapping, wrist breaking etc.  Or just lousy trigger work.  What Ive found, but not range tested (yet), is that while I like the feel of the shoe much better, the Mantis is telling me I'm decidedly worse when using it.  I could be I was getting used to the thinner trigger, or the feel of the stout weight, and something has changed by adding the shoe.  But, whereas I had increased my average to about 95 with the plain trigger, my average with the Mantis is about 92-93.  95 wasn't good enough to begin with.  I'm wondering if the shoes I've got on order are only going to screw me up... 

Or maybe I just need to get used to it.
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Post by mhayford45 on 2/5/2020, 5:40 am

I did not find a shoe to be of any real advantage. I shot about the same score with or without. So, I guess I agree with Jon as I did find that the shoe masked my roll a bit and as the shoe is much wider I did notice a bit more side pressure on the trigger shoe edge.

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Post by bruce martindale on 2/6/2020, 11:40 am

I think grip is a big part of trigger control. I was inconsistent with the 45 partly from 3 sources of motion...1 the natural wobble, 2 the trigger induced motion before ignition, and 3, the effects of recoil before bullet left the barrel. Of late, Extending fingers around the frontstrap gave a better compression grip and better trigger control for me. This works with smaller grips like slabs. I can't hold onto orthos.

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