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Post by Richard L on 2/22/2020, 8:47 pm

I just acquired one of my Grail Guns, a Smith & Wesson Model 52-2. I took it out for a couple “test drives” and it’s a sweet shooter indeed. I’m loving it, frankly. My question is does anyone still shoot the Model 52 in matches, or is this pretty much just a “fun gun” these days? I’ve never seen one at any of the matches I’ve been at, but I’m not averse to being the oddball.
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Post by bruce martindale on 2/22/2020, 9:02 pm

Plenty of us do, congratulations.

Now to find good hbwc bullets...

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Post by Richard L on 2/22/2020, 9:20 pm

bruce martindale wrote:Plenty of us do, congratulations.

Now to find good hbwc bullets...
I used what I already load for my Model 14: 2.8gr of BE behind Zero 148gr HBWC. I may experiment with that, but it worked fine and if I can use the same for both guns that would be nice.
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Post by bruce martindale on 2/23/2020, 7:53 am

You can, just make sure the head is absolutely flush with the end of the shell. I like roll crimps.
Good luck

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Post by JIMPGOV on 2/23/2020, 9:21 am

TRY 2.7 WST, SWAGED 148HBWC BULLET LOADED FLUSH OR JUST BELOW FLUSH. MUCH CLEANER, ALSO SLIGHTLY BETTER ACCURACY.

PLENTY OF MDL 52'S BEING USED IN INDOOR LEAGUES AROUND HERE STILL.

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Post by lalka686 on 2/25/2020, 1:17 pm

Your load is fine, I'm loading 2.6 BE under Remington HBWC roll crimped. I'm using mine in indoor league, outdoor matches & Int'l center fire. I was the only one at USA Shooting nationals with .38 caliber.
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Post by jwax on 2/26/2020, 8:52 pm

Also new to the 52-2, but loving it! You'll be fine tuning your "Hold after Fire", aka "Follow Through". It is an unforgiving gun, but with trigger finesse and follow through, a great shooter. Not many guns were made specifically for us Bullseye (Precision) shooters like the 52 was.
Also using 2.8 WST and Zero 148g HBWC.
Enjoy!

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Post by jwax on 2/26/2020, 8:56 pm

bruce martindale wrote:Plenty of us do, congratulations.

Now to find good hbwc bullets...

Bruce- How about you go into making us some?

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Post by bruce martindale on 2/27/2020, 1:26 pm

I lost in my bid to buy a press....

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Post by mikemyers on 2/27/2020, 1:28 pm

Not too long ago people here suggested I check with Terry at Magnus Bullets.  He makes a bullet specifically for the Model 52, his No. 514.

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Post by patrgro26 on 3/3/2020, 7:06 pm

Regarding bullets for this, Precision Delta's 148 HBWC with "match lube" seems to be the best substitute I've found for the old Remington dirty 148's. I haven't tested them, but they seem a tad harder than the Rem's, and I can say they do work pretty well in the 52. I've had one for 15 years, don't shoot it half as much as I should, but when it (me) works it really cuts satisfying holes in the 9-10-X. You have to treat the whole thing like dry firing--follow through is everything.  For loading, the bullet has to be absolutely flush, if not sub by .001 or so, and put a healthy crimp on it; I've found it helps with feeding. Oh, and stay away from DEWC *anything*, unless you want to wonder why the gun shot great yesterday, and now is throwing everywhere.

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Post by jwax on 3/4/2020, 7:28 am

patrgro26 wrote:Regarding bullets for this, Precision Delta's 148 HBWC with "match lube" seems to be the best substitute I've found for the old Remington dirty 148's. I haven't tested them, but they seem a tad harder than the Rem's, and I can say they do work pretty well in the 52. I've had one for 15 years, don't shoot it half as much as I should, but when it (me) works it really cuts satisfying holes in the 9-10-X. You have to treat the whole thing like dry firing--follow through is everything.  For loading, the bullet has to be absolutely flush, if not sub by .001 or so, and put a healthy crimp on it; I've found it helps with feeding. Oh, and stay away from DEWC *anything*, unless you want to wonder why the gun shot great yesterday, and now is throwing everywhere.
Have you tried and noticed a difference between their regular remanufactured and their PDP new ammo?
Also, any idea on muzzle velocity of both?

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Post by patrgro26 on 3/4/2020, 8:55 am

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Post by patrgro26 on 3/4/2020, 9:10 am

jwax wrote:
patrgro26 wrote:Regarding bullets for this, Precision Delta's 148 HBWC with "match lube" seems to be the best substitute I've found for the old Remington dirty 148's. I haven't tested them, but they seem a tad harder than the Rem's, and I can say they do work pretty well in the 52. I've had one for 15 years, don't shoot it half as much as I should, but when it (me) works it really cuts satisfying holes in the 9-10-X. You have to treat the whole thing like dry firing--follow through is everything.  For loading, the bullet has to be absolutely flush, if not sub by .001 or so, and put a healthy crimp on it; I've found it helps with feeding. Oh, and stay away from DEWC *anything*, unless you want to wonder why the gun shot great yesterday, and now is throwing everywhere.
Have you tried and noticed a difference between their regular remanufactured and their PDP new ammo?
Also, any idea on muzzle velocity of both?
[size=12]Honestly, I've never used reman ammo. Tried some one time, and it didn't fit--it wasn't totally flush, and that matters a bunch in my gun, at least. Every feeding problem I've ever had was because of under-seating or not enough crimp. I just looked last night, and my last load was 3.1gr of HP-38. I didn't chrono it last summer, but I *believe* when I did a few years back it was just over 700fps. If it's sunny today, I might be able to get out over lunchtime, but this is SE Michigan, and March isn't known for sunny days. Is the S&W Model 52 Still Used? Icon_sad[/size]

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Post by orpheoet on 3/5/2020, 3:42 am

I shoot mine indoors. 2.7 WST for me


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Post by lonegunman on 3/15/2020, 9:45 pm

Yes, there is even a company selling adapter plates for different red dot sights.

I found a nice NIB 1978 made 52-2 a couple of years ago.  The downside is of course ammunition and 38 does have a tougher time in the wind and it will punish you if you do not have good follow thru on every shot.  But, when it works, it is a thing of beauty.
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