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Post by hammer6048 Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:18 pm

Been shooting Bullseye for several years and I am building a pistol box.  Looking for a dedicated scope, have been using a Kowa that I use for Highpower Rifle.  Need something that can only be 4 1/2 inches wide and 15 inches long.  So I have been looking at the Minox MD 50 W.  To be used indoor only. Anyone use this and can it be focused at short range.  Or is there something else out there I should be considering?  Thanks  BTW have the Gil Herbard mount.

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Post by CrankyThunder Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:41 pm

Hi Hammer:

While I have an ancient champion choice spotter in my box, a number of my teammates have one of these:

http://www.champchoice.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetailOptions&item=CC1030

A lot clearer and brighter then mine and I am envious.  Not envious enough to upgrade my spotter because I think that I look through my spotter too much and a nicer scope would just be inviting myself to peer through it more often but a very good scope with a nice price.  

I highly recommend it.  Clear, Bright, angled eyepiece, rotates, able to pick out 22 holes at 50 yards almost always and easily focused.  

Most of my teammates do not bother with the Hebard mount, don't need it with the rotating feature.  

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Post by radjag Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:06 pm

I have a Minox. It is good for up to 25 yards, most light conditions. Hard to see 22 holes at 50 yards in less than bright daylight. Indoors at 50 feet it is fine, but if light level is poor, with my old eyes, sometimes tricky to see 22 holes in the black. For CF and 45 good at all distances.

I know several other owners who recommended them to me. Good performance/price point.

But, I have to admit that I bought a larger scope that takes up almost all of my box space, just because my eyesight is not great and I get frustrated if I can't see every shot even in poor light.

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Post by James Hensler Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:47 am

Equipment Recommendation Dff98610
NG20x33 this little scope can see 22 holes at 50 yards in almost any condition even low light and in rain


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Post by tovaert Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:44 am

Kowa TSN-501

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Post by SW-52 Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:59 am

James Hensler wrote:Equipment Recommendation Dff98610
NG20x33 this little scope can see 22 holes at 50 yards in almost any condition even low light and in rain
looks very nice and compact and if can see .22 holes at 50 yards is the best.
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Post by James Hensler Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:33 pm

SW-52 wrote:
James Hensler wrote:Equipment Recommendation Dff98610
NG20x33 this little scope can see 22 holes at 50 yards in almost any condition even low light and in rain
looks very nice and compact and if can see .22 holes at 50 yards is the best.
Yeah it can see them and it is common to see several at a match


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Post by troystaten Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:05 pm

I have a minox, like it a lot, I would buy the angled eye piece if I did it over.  I have not used it indoors but I think it would be fine.

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Post by SW-52 Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:13 pm

James Hensler wrote:
SW-52 wrote:
James Hensler wrote:Equipment Recommendation Dff98610
NG20x33 this little scope can see 22 holes at 50 yards in almost any condition even low light and in rain
looks very nice and compact and if can see .22 holes at 50 yards is the best.
Yeah it can see them and it is common to see several at a match
What website sell this spotting scope?
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Post by Tim:H11 Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:40 pm

Another vote for the Kowa TSN-501. I bought one at Perry last year. I doubt I'll ever need another scope again unless something happens to this one.
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Post by radjag Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:52 pm

As far as I know, these NG 20x33 spotting scopes are no longer available new. The only possibility is finding one offered for sale used on this forum, eBay or elsewhere. Good luck!

I also see several shooters using them at the matches I attend. I must try to remember to ask for a peep through one. I'm sorry to say that I'm sceptical of reliably seeing 22 holes in the black on a dull day at 50 yards with my eyes and such a small scope Rolling Eyes

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Post by Tim:H11 Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:07 pm

radjag wrote:As far as I know, these NG 20x33 spotting scopes are no longer available new. The only possibility is finding one offered for sale used on this forum, eBay or elsewhere. Good luck!

I also see several shooters using them at the matches I attend. I must try to remember to ask for a peep through one. I'm sorry to say that I'm sceptical of reliably seeing 22 holes in the black on a dull day at 50 yards with my eyes and such a small scope Rolling Eyes

I used to own one. They’re really really nice. Easy to see what you need to for this sport. But I had an eye relief problem for me. I needed to be right up on it. I prefer a slightly bigger lens so I don’t need to be right dang near against it.
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Post by Black_Talon Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:32 pm

SW-52 wrote:What website sell this spotting scope?
There's one on ebay right now. Search for "Anschutz"
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Post by James Hensler Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:06 am

EBay and yes they still sell them! The company is in Canada
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Post by radjag Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:17 am

Ah, yes. You are correct, Cibles Canada, but they do not list a price or availability on their website. And the scope is not shown on their eBay site.

I have sent an email enquiry to them.

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Post by James Hensler Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:17 am

radjag wrote:Ah, yes. You are correct, Cibles Canada, but they do not list a price or availability on their website. And the scope is not shown on their eBay site.

I have sent an email enquiry to them.
They only import 10 or so at a time. Right now I can say they are probably out! When I ordered mine I contacted them and they really did email me when they got their next shipped! With shipping and money conversion I think I paid 283 total shipped! I got it last Aug
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Post by radjag Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:46 pm

Jim, so they are imported by Cibles into Canada - where are they made? I'm guessing China, cause I did come across an AliBaba item which looked very similar - there was no price quoted, but I'm willing to bet that it would be a heck of a lot less than $283. Typically, vendors on AliBaba will only sell in "bulk", hence the 10 minimum shipment.

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Post by radjag Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:06 pm

NG DGL-20 20X33 is the complete model name.

Also named DGJ-20 and sold under the Anschutz brand in Europe.

Manufactured in China. Several Canadian vendors offering at similar price to Jim's. I'm awaiting a response from a dealer in China, but best indication is that they are ~$140 wholesale in China, so probably ~$100 ex-factory. Plus shipping, etc., of course.

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Post by radjag Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:24 pm

I got a very fast response from the vendor of the NG 20X33 in Canada:-

Cibles Canada Targets / Jocelyn Langlois
Hi,
We are out of stock, but we have some in order.
Hopefully, the Chinese will accept to ship it ??
Have a great day
jocelyn

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