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Post by mikemyers on Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:52 pm

Before I place my order with Amazon, does anyone here have a copy of the Jerry Kuhnhausen shop manual for the 1911 for sale?
There's lots of different versions, but before I spend the $$ with Amazon, I figured I would ask here.

If nobody here has one, any advice on which of these to buy?
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=1911+manual&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

I certainly don't need a "collector's hard cover book", just a good clean copy that I can read easily.
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Post by james r chapman on Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:14 am

Somewhere it’s available in .pdf online
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Post by NickMarciano on Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:57 am

Mike:

I have a copy in mint condition.  Asking $25 shipped.

Contact me by e-mail.  Nick10Ring@aol.com

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Post by mikemyers on Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:34 am

Nick, great!  I'll send you an email later today with my address and so on.  
Jim, I'm old - I still prefer paper.   Sorry......    Can't help it.
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Post by DmitriyF on Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:51 am

I didn't try to download, but looks legit:

https://www.scribd.com/document/131746427/The-Colt-45-Automatic-A-Shop-Manual-Vol-1-by-Kuhnhausen

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2015/09/12/the-us-m1911-a-shop-manual-vol-2-by-kuhnhausen/

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Post by mpolans on Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:33 am

DmitriyF wrote:I didn't try to download, but looks legit:

https://www.scribd.com/document/131746427/The-Colt-45-Automatic-A-Shop-Manual-Vol-1-by-Kuhnhausen

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2015/09/12/the-us-m1911-a-shop-manual-vol-2-by-kuhnhausen/
Thanks!  I've got hardcopies of both, but having electronic versions to do keyword searches might come in handy.

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Post by zanemoseley on Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:22 am

I found the PDF and printed it, put it into a binder. Cheap and works.

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Post by CR10X on Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:49 pm

Deleted since it was felt to be a bit harsh.  Was only a joke.  And I even recommended that Mike get both Volumes. 

But if you've ever read or used the books, the joke might make more sense.  They are very, very detailed and I wish mine had been shipped with an instructor.


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Post by Aprilian on Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:14 pm

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Post by Jwhelan939 on Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:54 pm

I used the Kuhnhausen books along with the agi video course to build a 1911. It's by no means perfect, but it looks good and shoots great. I could have bought a KC Kustom for the amount I spent on parts and tools, but it was a fun experience.

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Post by Jwhelan939 on Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:03 pm

WTB - 1911 Manual 15958912

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Post by mikemyers on Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:29 pm

CR10X wrote:Mike, just joking,  but ---

Does anyone else feel like Mike getting a Kuhnhausen manual is a little like giving a set of Wusthof steak knives to a baby?  😁😂

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.  

But the only solution is more knowledge.

So, have at it, but go ahead and get both volumes!  

CR

As you wrote:  "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."

My bigger mistake is starting all this 50 years too late.

Hmm, "both volumes"??????   What/why/do/would I want another volume for?

Meanwhile, maybe you've all got several more gray hairs from reading my posts, but after all that discussion on the extractor, I was finally able to fix my extractor problem, despite the fact that "drop in" is a myth.  I don't doubt that any of you could have done this in an hour or two, or that Jim's advice (take it to a gunsmith) would have saved a lot of my own gray hair, but somehow, I got it working anyway.

One of these days I'll get banned from this forum for being too ignorant.  Or, maybe I'll learn enough to get "good enough".

Thanks for putting up with me.  !!  WTB - 1911 Manual 1960973398
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Post by mikemyers on Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:31 pm

Jwhelan939 wrote:I used the Kuhnhausen books along with the agi video course to build a 1911. It's by no means perfect, but it looks good and shoots great. I could have bought a KC Kustom for the amount I spent on parts and tools, but it was a fun experience.
Congratulations!!!!!!

Maybe before I die, I'll be able to do this too.

Looks awesome!!!!!!
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Post by mikemyers on Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:40 pm

Jwhelan939 wrote:WTB - 1911 Manual 15958912
The sight says "Ultradot" - what kind of mount is it on?  Is this something people buy instead of rings?

Seems a lot cleaner than what I've got now:
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....and while I'm asking, what kind of trigger did you buy?  I need to replace the trigger on my Caspian, and I like what you got.
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Post by lablover on Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:00 pm

Hey Mike, that looks like a ultradot micro.
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Post by Jwhelan939 on Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:13 pm

The dot is an ultradot micro dot. The mount is integral. Don't recommend it. Didn't last long. The trigger is an sti. I also wouldn't recommend that. It's a polymer material. Has kind of a weird feeling to it.

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Post by mikemyers on Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:46 pm

I don't plan on doing much to the gun, but I would have said that at any time in the past too.  It's a Salyer Springfield, with lots of machining.  It has a two-piece guide rod, and a KC trigger.  Wilson extractor.  Sharkskin grips.  The sight just arrived today, and in the not too far off future, I'll receive my sight mounts from Optics Planet.  The lightened and lowered rail came from Jon Eulette.  Dave originally built the gun for a fellow who wanted to use it for 45 and 22, thus the two-piece guide rod.  He sold it to Dan (??) here on this forum, and I bought it from Dan, while I was still in India.  Dan was using it for his practice gun, while he built his own Bullseye gun.  Other than the Kart barrel, I'm not sure what other parts Dave put into the gun.  

It still has the two-piece guide rod in it, as I haven't yet decided if I should use it with my Nelson kit (assuming I don't sell the Nelson kit first).  

The reason for shooting it is supposed to be for matches, but my club has (had) a monthly Bullseye Match - but only for one gun/class.  You can shoot any gun you want, but I guess the match is a "900 match", not a "2700".  Until now, I've been using my 22.  Now, for the first time, I think I would enjoy competing with the Springfield, but that's all ancient history - until we put an end to the virus, I don't expect any bullseye matches at my club.

Anyway, the matches we do/did have were divided into two groups.  The (small) group I shoot with uses 50 and 25 yards.  Everyone else shoots at 25 and 15.  My group shoots with one hand, following Bullseye rules.  The rest of the shooters can use two hands if they wish.  The matches are (were) very popular, 30 or more participants.  

I used to wonder why I didn't join the two-hand group, but the honest truth is (and I find it difficult to accept) I now shoot better one handed than with two.  

Long ago, the club used to hold "real" Bullseye Matches.  Back then I didn't know anything about the club, or bullseye.  I spent the 1960's on in Michigan.  If only I had met the right people back then, my life would have been quite different, and I wouldn't be playing catch-up now.  No complaints though - the best things I ever did, was joining my club and finding this forum.    :-)
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Post by DA/SA on Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:50 pm

mikemyers wrote: the best things I ever did, was joining my club and finding this forum.    :-)
You joined the forum exactly four years ago today...
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Post by mikemyers on Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:52 pm

Wow!!!!    If feels like MUCH more than that.  Thanks!!!
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Post by Sa-tevp on Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:41 pm

Now to find the recipe to condense the Kuhnhasuen manuals into small green Jello cubes.

You will find they are a good start but they leave out many of the wrong ways to to things, such as long barrel feet, Marvel cuts, firing pin stop radius, optics, oversize parts, etc.
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Post by CR10X on Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:40 am

Deleted since it was felt to be a bit harsh.  Was only a joke.  And I even recommended that Mike get both Volumes. 

But if you've ever read or used the books, the joke might make more sense.  They are very, very detailed and I wish mine had been shipped with an instructor.



There are 2 Jerry Kuhnhausen books that comprise the set - both volumes.  

"The Colt .45 Automatic - A Shop Manual" 

AND

"The US M1911 / M1911A1 Pistols & Commerical M1911 ype Pistols - A Shop Manual" - (Volume II in the Kuhnhausen .45 Auto Series) 

Like I said, the only solution is more knowledge.....

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Post by mikemyers on Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:15 am

Cecil - please do me just ONE favor - un-delete your post.

If anyone thought it was a "bit harsh", that person was me, and I in no way feel that way.  Now I wish I had quoted you, as that way it couldn't, and wouldn't, vanish.  As things are, anyone who reads this thread later, is going to wonder what they missed.  

The meaning of what you wrote, was wondering about others feeling the way you did, that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.  

I know for certain that there is a HUGE amount of bullseye related stuff that I don't yet understand.
I have been constantly getting involved in doing things I wasn't YET prepared to do.
Every one of them did (eventually) get done, due mostly because of feedback here in the forum.

Ain't nothing wrong with what you posted, and even if it seemed to you to be a bit harsh, I ENJOYED reading it.  Harsh or not, it was true, and appropriate. It was also cute, no wonder I smiled when I read it.

This thread is a "dead-end" thread, as I've already sent off my check to buy the book.  But in the meantime, you brought something up, as a joke, that had a LOT of truth in it.  I ain't upset at you posting it - I do feel upset that it is now gone.  You made it even more of a challenge for me to actually learn about ejectors, and while I'm not ready to actually DO any of that stuff yet, if I need to do it, I can/will.

Thank you!



Edit - added later.....
No need to do anything.  I already *did* quote you, so it couldn't/wouldn't suddenly vanish.
What I wrote in my response is how I really feel, so no need to say more here.
I was in no way, not even a tiny bit, bothered/offended/upset/whatever over what you wrote.  I thought it was cute!
Thank you!
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Post by CR10X on Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:36 am

Nope, will not un-delete. I said it was a joke but I don't want to offend anyone and I try to abide by my own rules.  I apologize to anyone and everyone if my humor was ill received.   

It's my responsibility to correct and amend.  (I did penance by cleaning .22 magazines.)

If you don't have it, here are some good starting references for the 1911 / .45.

https://www.amazon.com/Gun-Digest-Book-45/dp/0873490436

and

https://www.amazon.com/Gun-Digest-Book-1911-Complete/dp/0896892697

And both volumes of the Kuhnhausen books

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Post by Wobbley on Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:57 am

CR10X wrote: (I did penance by cleaning .22 magazines.)

CR
Did you say the 3 Hail Marys?

You are absolved my son now go and sin no more!

lol!
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Post by CR10X on Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:38 am

Sorry, forgot.  But I did say something else when my thumb slipped off the spring and inner and outer base clips when reassembling one of the Kart .22 mags and I spent 15 minutes trying the find the inner clip with the little tab that holds everything together.  So as you can see, it's kinda hard for me to get ahead......

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