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Post by Psween on 8/18/2020, 8:06 am

I printed a 50 yd SF target and tried my RO last night for the first time at that yardage. If we ignore the fact that I forgot to come up from my 25 yd. zero, what might this target tell me to work on?

I called the two extreme low left shots as I saw the sights drop at the shot. Those were shots I should have aborted and started over, I knew I was overholding and couldn't seem to stop myself. What else do you more experienced shooters notice?

The main group looks to be about 9 ring sized, so I'm pretty happy with that. Thanks, I'm really enjoying shooting this .45!

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Post by james r chapman on 8/18/2020, 8:46 am

Just center it up.
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Post by Oleg G on 8/18/2020, 9:30 am

Come up to your elevation setting. You may want to either check your stance, or move the sights/dot right 2-3 clicks. Check your stance first.
This target sends a really good message - 8 of your shots would be inside the 9 ring. Work on being consistent through all 10 shots. And you already know that, since you commented that you should not have fired the other two shots. So, next time, just make yourself put the gun down! Smile

The last advice - don't describe your bad shots, even to yourself. Focus on writing down everything you can about exactly how you shot the good shots. The more you keep telling yourself about shooting good shots, the more of these good shots will happen. Remember, this is a mental sport much more than it is physical.
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Post by Psween on 8/18/2020, 10:58 am

Thanks, I ran out of time and daylight last night before I could put up a new target and adjust zero. I should be able to shoot some more tonight. Will come up 6-8 clicks and see if that gets me close. Overall, I'm pretty pleased at the group size, like you said, if it was centered it would likely be in the 90s. I know from my previous air pistol shooting to not focus too much on score when training, just focus on stringing together one good shot after another and let the numbers come out how they will.

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Post by Wobbley on 8/18/2020, 11:05 am

Adjust the sights, and dry-fire and shoot more to get better trigger control.
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Post by zanemoseley on 8/18/2020, 12:07 pm

Your target shows evidence of the typical RH shooter flinch. If your flinch is consistent you can adjust your sights to adjust. In my experience the flinch is difficult to eliminate, try at first to minimize it. Typically if your 45 scores are lower than your 22 scores its attributed to flinch and to a lesser extend increased recover time in RF.

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Post by chiz1180 on 8/18/2020, 12:36 pm

The target can only tell you so much about what you need to do to improve. Video yourself shooting, and watch critically. Chances are you will notice things that you ignore while you are shooting. As a personal example, when reviewing myself shooting I found that the longer I held, my arm would slightly drop down, as a result the shot would tend to be low. It also helps to take notes when you are shooting, especially when you figure out something you are trying to improve.   

A similar (and probably better) method is to attend a bullseye clinic if possible. Zins, Henderson, and Hemphill all have clinics from time to time.

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Post by mikemyers on 8/18/2020, 12:41 pm

The person who has been reviewing my targets for a while now would say that I was aiming at the bullseye, which would make it unlikely that my shots would go near the middle of where I was aiming - instead, they would go all around it. 

https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t8516-area-aiming-by-dave-salyer?highlight=salyer

https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t8732-more-words-of-wisdom-from-dave-salyer?highlight=salyer

There is another write-up by "Cranky Thunder" which describes something similar, but worded differently.  I'll try to find it later.  George's thoughts are along the lines of trying to delay the firing of the gun as much as possible, so that when it does fire, you're surprised.  There won't be any time for you to flinch.


If you get a cluster of holes around an empty middle, that's the definition of doing it wrong.  If you follow their advice, you'll get a random arrangement of holes, with "most" of them clustered around the middle, and fewer and fewer as you move out from the "middle".  

(Just to add - at first I thought those ideas were insane, how can you hit something without trying to hit it.  I did it anyway, and found that they were right. )

There are many, many people here far more qualified than I am to give advice, but after you read all the threads about "area aiming", try it, and see what you think then.
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Post by Larry2520 on 8/18/2020, 3:33 pm

You might be anticipating recoil!

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