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Post by JKR on 8/30/2020, 5:45 pm

Well it’s a brand new week. Here’s mine. The good, the bad, and the ugly!

Walther GSP/dot sight 
Outdoor 25/50 yard
Agulia SE

SF 97-5
TF 95-2
RF 96-3
NMC 288-10

After a great slow fire the wheels just fell off!
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Post by mikemyers on 8/31/2020, 2:25 pm

Name or forum name:  Mike Myers
Date:   Aug 31, 2020
Distance: 25 yard
Indoor/Outdoor:  Outdoor
Pistol:  High Standard X-Series and Salyer Springfield 45
Caliber: 22   (and 45)
Sights:  Aimpoint H-2    (And one inch Ultradot)
Shooting aids: none
Hands used:  1
Targets:  B-8
Post a picture of the targets if you can.  ...below...


Score Slow Fire:     96    4X
Score Timed Fire:   97    3X
Score Rapid Fire:   93    2X
TOTAL:   286   9X      
    (doesn't count, as the slow fire target was B-8.  
     I also shot the B-16 three times, and once more with my wad gun.)


Slow Fire:  I also shot at three B-16 targets with my High Standard, and one B-16 with my wad gun.  Those are the lower three photos.  I haven't scored them yet.  The first two with the High Standard were "aimed" at the X.  Then I came to my senses, and shot the third, and also the 45 targets, using Dave Salyer's Area Aiming instructions.  Big difference!




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Post by dapduh2 on 8/31/2020, 4:19 pm

[quote defaultattr=""]    (doesn't count, as the slow fire target was B-8.  
     I also shot the B-16 three times, and once more with my wad gun.)[/quote]
I gotta ask, why’d you shoot the SF with a B8 and use that as your NMC score and then shot on the proper B16 target. Seems like you’re doing yourself a disservice.
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Post by mikemyers on 8/31/2020, 5:38 pm

Easy - the fellow I'm competing with doesn't want to use the B-16, so I shot the B-8 competing with him, and the B-16 to see what it was like to do so.  I didn't have time to do it earlier today, but from now on I will shoot four targets, slow-fire B-8, slow-fire B-16, timed fire B-8, and rapid fire B-8.  

Tony and I want to do one round of 22, then one round of center fire, and the targets I posted here from now on will be the B-16, which I've been told is the proper target.  For today, Tony shot his Model 52, but I shot my 45.

Meanwhile, Dave is going to look at the B-16 targets, and ask why I obviously shot "point aiming", rather than "area aiming" as in the third target.  I was curious, and got the results I expected.  The top three targets that I added up were all area-aiming.  

Shooting with area aiming, you get a cluster of holes.
Shooting at the bullseye gets you a donut. 
At least for me - and Dave has proved it many times.  He knows instantly which way I shot.


As to doing myself a disservice, my goal is to shoot with some new ideas I got from watching the Master's video.  I went home with a smile on my face.  I want to watch that video again from beginning to end, and make more notes.
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Post by dapduh2 on 8/31/2020, 5:50 pm

Wasn’t meant with ill intent, just can’t know your true potential in a match if you aren’t using proper targets. If your buddy doesn’t like the B16 you can place it behind your B8 possibly on the SF string to get a better idea.
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Post by mikemyers on 8/31/2020, 6:00 pm

No, I never thought of "ill intent", or anything similar.

Hey, BRILLIANT IDEA!!!!!!!!   Shoot B-16, with the B-8 behind it.
Thank you!!!!!
I wish I had thought of that earlier.

I know the scores are important as it's a match, a competition, but to be honest, I know instantly if I'm pleased or not just by looking at the group.  It should be tighter than it is now, but I can see the potential.

It sounds silly, but I think it's easier for me to shoot well with the 45 than the 22.  I would have thought the opposite would be true.
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Post by aub1957 on 9/1/2020, 12:23 pm

Aub1957
Date: 08/30/20
Distance: 50 yd slow, 25 yd timed, 25 yd rapid
Outdoors Weekend Practice Session

Rimfire -
Pistol: Hammerli Xesse IPSC
Caliber: .22 (CCI SV)
Sights: Irons
Score Slow Fire: 85-0
Score Timed Fire: 97-1
Score Rapid Fire: 94-0

Total: 276-1x

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Post by JKR on 9/1/2020, 1:03 pm

aub1957,
Nicely done. And with irons too!
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Post by aub1957 on 9/1/2020, 3:01 pm

Thanks, JKR. I was quite rushed due to an approaching thunderstorm. I did more driving than shooting that day. Never had time for centerfire.

I had a few surprising 50 yd practice targets from Sunday including this 89 with the Xesse and CCI SV. This is just a great 50 yd score for me as I am usually low to mid 80s. This older (dark blue box) CCI just shot extremely nice at 50 out of that particular pistol. Man, if I could pull off shooting an 89 in slow fire in an EIC match, I'd feel "ten feet tall and bulletproof" going into timed.

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Post by DA/SA on 9/5/2020, 11:18 am

Name or forum name:  DA/SA
Date:   9/5/20
Distance: 25 yard
Outdoor
Pistol:  Marvel 1911 Conversion
Caliber: 22   
Sights:  Ultradot
Shooting aids: none
Targets:  B-16 / B-8



Score Slow Fire:    87    0X
Score Timed Fire:  99    4X
Score Rapid Fire:   99    2X
TOTAL:   285   6X 


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Post by mikemyers on 9/5/2020, 3:32 pm

I look at your targets, and find it's interesting that you shoot Timed Fire better than Slow Fire,  and you shoot just as nicely in Rapid.  I wish I could do that!   Nice!!!
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Post by radjag on 9/10/2020, 10:04 pm

JKR, not sure whether you are a revolver shooter? I have several, but don't shoot any of them very well. My fingers are too short to comfortably thumb the hammer, so I typically shoot DA for both TF and RF.

But - I'm working on it! Today I needed to test some long line ammo I've just loaded and produced a decent result - by my standards!

10Sep20 25 yards Outdoor 
(overcast due to heavy smoke from forest fires that are too close for comfort!)
K16-4 with UD 1"
XTP100 over 4.0 grains of Power Pistol for SF + TF
Normal 32SWL WC target loads for RF

Typical Harry Reeves Match

SF - 90
TF - 92
RF - 92
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NMC - 274
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