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Post by xman Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:51 pm

I am looking for one or two keys for my gun ho gun pistol box, the hardware has no numbers on it and my online search has been futile. I would even take a email tracing of a key or keys for a gun ho box that I could take to a locksmith and have them fabricate the keys for me. I was stopped by a Texas trooper for a lane change violation and he asked if I had any firearms and of course I did have 2 22s in my gun box.The trooper did not write me up for anything but he did advise that I at least get keys for the pistol box. If you think you could help me out on the tracings or finding keys please PM me. Thanks
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Post by Greg Walloch Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:12 pm

Can you show me a photo of the lock?

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Post by james r chapman Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:29 pm

You were misinformed.
Texas requires it to be only concealed from plain view.
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Post by xman Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:32 pm

I guess that that trooper was A little too enthusiastic or just on an ego trip who knows. I was just happy that he did write me up for the lane change violation.


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Post by xman Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:39 pm

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Post by CR10X Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:45 pm

Without the numbers, its kinda a guessing game.  Sometimes there is number stamped on or inside the lock, mostly not.  Sad

Most Gun-Ho / Pachmayr box keys are 151, some are 6K11 and there are a couple of other locks used that I can't find.  If there is a front and back door sometimes its the same key, other times they are different.  

I've got a late model 2 gun small box with a side open door (not the small 2 / 3 gun box that the top flips open) and a slide out tray and neither the 151 or 6K11 keys work.  Greg, if you know that one, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

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Post by Asa Yam Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:23 pm

CR10X wrote:Without the numbers, its kinda a guessing game.  Sometimes there is number stamped on or inside the lock, mostly not. ...SNIP...

Am also missing keys to a Gun-Ho box.  Locks are similar to X-Man's.  Believe key is simple (one "tooth", "sheetmetal" type construction), an "Atco" brand key fits, but will not lock or unlock.  Dimensions of tested key:


  • Height:  0.252";

  • Height at tallest "tooth":  0.227", "tooth" ends around 0.030" from tip of key;

  • Width:  0.051";

  • Other Notes:  0.050" wide "channel" cut in right side of key, approx. 0.070" from base of key.

 
...SNIP... and neither the 151 or 6K11 keys work.  Greg, if you know that one, I'd appreciate it.

Will look for a replacement key when running errands today - will let you know what I find.

Am wondering if it might be useful to pin the key types for gun boxes once we resolve this issue?  Seems we have more than a few posts of this type.

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Post by Greg Walloch Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:33 pm

I was afraid of that....I’ve not been able to find the key to that lock either.

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Post by xman Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:21 pm

I will be taking my case to a locksmith tomorrow, give them what information I have possibility of being an Excelsior single tooth and see what they say. I also saw on eBay with a search for Excelsior keys several possibles in bags of keys some of them are a bargain and some of them are not some offer returns and some do not. I will post what they say at the locksmiths and what happens.
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Post by james r chapman Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:55 pm

sorry, checked mine, no key.

kinda looks like the ones in bathroom towel dispensers, lol
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Post by CR10X Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:05 pm

For the single tooth keys, try the 6K11 first.

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Post by Asa Yam Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:09 am

Went to Walmart and ACE hardware today, neither one had the correct key.  Salesperson at ACE suggested looking online for a match, as the key appeared to be mass produced.  Online search revealed:

Now I know what the key looks like, will search the house again.
Hope this helps.

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Post by Asa Yam Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:57 am

From appearance, key appears to be similar to an "SKB HC-02K".  

  • Units of this type are available on eBay for about $7/pair, plus shipping.  Link for listing is https://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-2-TKL-SKB-Guitar-Instrument-Case-keys-Draw-latch-1980s-present/252476860451
  • Keys are also available from SKB for $2 each, plus shipping.  Link is https://store.skbcases.com/key-for-freedom-hc-02-latch/

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Post by Outthere Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:19 am

Those are luggage keys. You may try a luggage store.
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Post by SonOfAGun Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:11 pm

Asa Yam wrote:From appearance, key appears to be similar to an "SKB HC-02K".  


**IF** the SKB keys work, here is a cheaper source.

I have the SKP HC-02 and HC-27 keys on order that I'll try against a Gun-Ho case I have. The only things I know about this particular case for sure, is that there are no visible key numbers indicated on the hardware, and the Excelsior 151 key does NOT work.

https://store.skbcases.com/keys/
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Post by Speedy396 Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:43 pm

Make check with the Shooter’s Box as they picked up the Gun-Ho line from Pedro’s Luggage. I may have to do that since I don’t have keys for mine either.

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Post by xman Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:30 pm

Well I tried a very large locksmith company here in East Texas. He looks at the latch system. went into his inventory area and he pulled out several keys and he did have single tooth keys but the main problem was the long groove on the side of the keys that he had they are on the wrong side to fit the hardware on the gun case. He said he may have had the right key at one time but as his inventory shrinks he does not refill every single make and style.
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Post by Outthere Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:09 pm

There aren’t any blanks for these. They’re stamped.
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Post by xman Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:39 pm

I may try to buy the keys from the eBay links on some previous posters messages


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Post by xman Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:39 pm

The keys he had were not blanks they were finished keys. I also sent an email to shootersbox.com which a previous poster said had taken over the gun ho line of boxes. If I get a response I will post the results.
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Post by ash Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:54 am

Thanks to Asa Yam's research, I purchased a pair from the ebay seller.  
These are exact replacement, compares exactly with my only original key and work on my 4gun box.  
Hope this helps.
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Post by xman Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:08 am

I have ordered from the same website eBay site and I expect them to arrive on Monday so I’ll cross my fingers and hope they fit.


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Post by Outthere Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:11 pm

Asa Yam wrote:From appearance, key appears to be similar to an "SKB HC-02K".  

  • Units of this type are available on eBay for about $7/pair, plus shipping.  Link for listing is https://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-2-TKL-SKB-Guitar-Instrument-Case-keys-Draw-latch-1980s-present/252476860451
  • Keys are also available from SKB for $2 each, plus shipping.  Link is https://store.skbcases.com/key-for-freedom-hc-02-latch/

Excellent thinking outside the box,(no pun intended).

Thanks for the resources, they're much appreciated.
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Post by SonOfAGun Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:16 pm

ash wrote:Thanks to Asa Yam's research, I purchased a pair from the ebay seller.  
These are exact replacement, compares exactly with my only original key and work on my 4gun box.  
Hope this helps.
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I purchased the HC-02 and HC-27 keys directly from SKB web store.

The HC-27 does not work for my Gun-Ho cases.

The HC-02 (same type as the eBay seller) also does NOT work on either of my Gun-Ho boxes.

I'll post my unused keys under separate thread if anyone wants them.
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Post by Asa Yam Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:59 pm

Asa Yam wrote:From appearance, key appears to be similar to an "SKB HC-02K".  

  • ...SNIP...
  • Keys are also available from SKB for $2 each, plus shipping.  Link is https://store.skbcases.com/key-for-freedom-hc-02-latch/

Just received a pair of HC-02K keys from SKB.  Tried one (they are identical) in the lock of my Gun-Ho box, it worked.  So, for $7 ($2 for each key, plus $3 shipping), i now can lock and unlock my gun box.  This raises the question as to how many types of locks Gun-Ho used on their gun boxes, since we now now that at least one type uses the HC-02K key.

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