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Post by Allen Barnett 12/12/2020, 3:27 pm

I actually saw and touched my first ever freepistol today.  It was a TOZ 35.  It was shown as NIB.  Not being familar with these pistols but have read about them here this pistol came with un-finished grips.  Is this standard practice?  Thought I could find some prices on Gun Broker but not much out there.  What are these guns worth (ball park)?

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Post by rkittine 12/12/2020, 3:36 pm

Yes, The TOX-35 and 35M come with chunks of wood that allow you to make your own grip custom to you. I had neither the patience or the wood working skills to do it, so mine still has the blocks of wood left as is, and now I have a set of RINK Grips that were made for my hand. I have friends that also have them and that were for sure used when they purchased them, though they still had the chunks of wood, so either they had a lot of the wood chucks left over to put in with guns being currently sold or the prior users has custom grips made and didn't both with the supplied wood.

There are lots of TOX-35Ms listed on gun sites, some saying that they have new ones and used ones. Usually about the same price - Around $465.00 with the box, grip blanks and accessories. Mine was said to be NIB and did come with the box, all the tools and the parts wrapped in the typical oiled paper that appeared to be new, but they gun itself did look like it had been used, though my understanding is that the finish on these was never high end, even though the accuracy was top notch. A set of custom Rink grips, delivered to the U.S. will run you about $350.00.

I now also have a Morini CM84E and a Walther FP-500, both much higher quality looking, but I am not sure if they will shoot better than the TOX or not.

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Post by Allen Barnett 12/12/2020, 3:45 pm

Thanks for some info.  Just thinking it might help me with my slow fire.  The price was cheap enough, less than $300, so I may just have to pick it up for the kicks.

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Post by Jon Eulette 12/12/2020, 3:52 pm

That's great price!
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Post by Merick 12/12/2020, 9:40 pm

Pros:
Preposterously fast lock time
Unrivaled trigger, sub 3 ounces, adjustable every which way.
9 Olympic gold medals
Under $500 or less new in box, with tools.

Cons:
Carving grips is at least as hard as shooting.

I've done the grip carving, but if I did it again I would start by making a plain 1911-ish grips for two reasons:
1 it would be much easier
2 I can't talk friends into getting one because they literally cannot grip mine to shoot it.

To make an ergo grip instead of just whittling away, I would make a dummy grip with putty or something first, then copy that form over to the walnut.

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Post by Brent375hh 1/2/2021, 11:32 pm

I just knew I couldn't ever finish the block carving.
Thomas Rink is making set for me.

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Post by JKR 1/3/2021, 6:23 am

I started shooting free pistol with a borrowed TOZ 35. I liked it so much that I just had to have my own. I bought one with the unfinished   grip. The price was around 500. 
Making the grip was a bit of a challenge because all I really had to go by was pictures of how I wanted it to look. When finished it looked rather nice. I stippled it, put an oil finish n it, and was quite pleased with myself. That is until I started shooting it. My pretty grip just didn’t feel right. Time for putty! My hand fairly snaps in place now. Of course the putty doesn’t do much for looks.
These pistols are everything a free pistol should be. Wonderfully accurate, extremely quick lock time. Great trigger and sights.
My borrowed gun’s trigger was set at 20 grams. (1 oz=28 grams I think) I set mine at 40 grams. I think that 80 grams is about as heavy as it will go. It will take you a bit to learn the trigger, but once you do it’s great. 
I used this pistol to win the MN state championship in 19. Covid precautions kept me from going in 20. I hope to shoot it again in a he upcoming season.
I’ve found that I enjoy international type pistol shooting more than Bullseye. 
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Post by Brent375hh 1/3/2021, 7:00 pm

JKR wrote:I started shooting free pistol with a borrowed TOZ 35. I liked it so much that I just had to have my own. I bought one with the unfinished   grip. The price was around 500. 
Making the grip was a bit of a challenge because all I really had to go by was pictures of how I wanted it to look. When finished it looked rather nice. I stippled it, put an oil finish n it, and was quite pleased with myself. That is until I started shooting it. My pretty grip just didn’t feel right. Time for putty! My hand fairly snaps in place now. Of course the putty doesn’t do much for looks.
These pistols are everything a free pistol should be. Wonderfully accurate, extremely quick lock time. Great trigger and sights.
My borrowed gun’s trigger was set at 20 grams. (1 oz=28 grams I think) I set mine at 40 grams. I think that 80 grams is about as heavy as it will go. It will take you a bit to learn the trigger, but once you do it’s great. 
I used this pistol to win the MN state championship in 19. Covid precautions kept me from going in 20. I hope to shoot it again in a he upcoming season.
I’ve found that I enjoy international type pistol shooting more than Bullseye. 
JKR

Please show us your grip. I was too intimidated to even attempt the carving. How many hours do you have it it?
I hope to see you this spring here in MN.

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Post by KBarth 1/3/2021, 7:53 pm

I started carving my own grip 2 weeks ago. Here is my progress.
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Post by Ed Hall 1/4/2021, 9:11 am

For those working on their own grips, you may be interested in Nygord's Notes on grip modification:

Nygord's Notes on Grip Modification

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Post by JKR 1/4/2021, 10:26 am

Here ya go Brent.TOZ Freepistol 47a81210
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Post by rkittine 1/4/2021, 12:44 pm

Very nice. I don't think I would ever try that. 

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Post by JNW1 1/5/2021, 11:45 am

Where on earth do you guys shoot free pistol in Minnesota?  Never heard of it but, I do lead a sheltered life.
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Post by Brent375hh 1/5/2021, 12:44 pm

JNW1 wrote:Where on earth do you guys shoot free pistol in Minnesota?  Never heard of it but, I do lead a sheltered life.
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Search the MRRA website in the spring. There are matches in both St. Francis and Oakdale, or at least that is where they have been in the past.

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