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Post by buttstock 1/24/2021, 6:47 pm

SOLD, 

For sale:

S&W model 14-3, FULL LUG  6" barrel.  Tight, accurate, in great shape, with factory grips.  I shot it for 1 year in indoor winter pistol league ( ISU match).  2.5 grains of Bullseye  with 148 grain HBWC gave 1-hole  groups at 50 feet.  Min endshake.  Minimum cylinder rotational play in cocked/carry up condition.  Tight gun.  Low round count.

No box, tools or paperwork.

This is a 14-3 stamped frame, no ifs ands or butts.  I can not give any reason why this 14-3 has a S&;W factory blued 38 Special full-lug barrel on it.  Sent back to the factory for a rebuild/ rebarreling?   Your guess is as good as mine. I bought it used, and in this condition.  Shoots amazingly well, with a beautiful crisp trigger. 

The grips are checkered walnut  factory grips with sharp checkering.  There is NO DIAMOND in the middle of the grip in the fastener ("grip screw") area. 

I am selling this revolver as a fine shooting S&;W model 14-3 that has a full lug 6 inch barrel.   I have no idea of the background, or previous ownership of this revolver, other than I bought it, had it shipped to my FFL, and it cleared the NICS check.  I did not make any modifications to it.  It shoots and handles wonderfully. It is 38 special. It is 6 rounds.  It is a factory S&;W blued 38 special full lug barrel.  It is stamped "38 S&W SPECIAL cartridge" on the barrel.  It is not a takeoff 357 mag barrel from a S&W 586. The revolver appears to have original blue finish on barrel/frame /cylinder.  The bore is bright and shiny with sharp rifling.

Price reduced, from $700+ shipping, to...$700     INCLUDING SHIPPING/INSURANCE TO LOWER 48.  Comes in soft zippered case.

my email is in my profile, if you would like a picture.


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Post by buttstock 1/24/2021, 7:03 pm

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Post by james r chapman 1/24/2021, 7:13 pm

the 14-3 would be '68-76, the full lug didn't arrive till '91, so I'm thinking a rebuild.
nice combination though.

what's the first 4 of serial #?
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Post by buttstock 1/24/2021, 8:29 pm

serial number / model number on frame, under crane:

5K391xx

MOD
14-3


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Post by Wobbley 1/24/2021, 8:54 pm

Definitely an altered pistol.  The 5K serial and the pinned barrel precede the full under lug.  It still may be a nice shooter though.
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Post by buttstock 1/25/2021, 5:05 am

It is fantastic shooter, as stated. One holer at 50 feet.

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Post by jjfitch 1/25/2021, 10:35 am

Your M14 may have been modified for PPC. The height of the front sight may allow for neck hold at 50 yards! And 14 clicks down for POI/POA at 25/15/7 yards on the regulation B-27 PPC target!

A set of Davis (large) grips and you'd be "golden"!

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Post by james r chapman 1/25/2021, 11:24 am

jjfitch wrote:Your M14 may have been modified for PPC. The height of the front sight may allow for neck hold at 50 yards! And 14 clicks down for POI/POA at 25/15/7 yards on the regulation B-27 PPC target!

A set of Davis (large) grips and you'd be "golden"!

Smiles,

Does raise the question again about gaming the rules for PPC though.

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Post by Wobbley 1/25/2021, 12:08 pm

Well, Smith & Wesson did have a full under lug 14 in their catalog.  If we’re going to parse the rules to specific configurations, you had better have factory records by serial number.
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Post by james r chapman 1/25/2021, 12:29 pm

Not like it’s a Smython or a Smolt.

Lol
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Post by toddcfii 1/25/2021, 4:39 pm

Wobbley wrote:Well, Smith & Wesson did have a full under lug 14 in their catalog.  If we’re going to parse the rules to specific configurations, you had better have factory records by serial number.

I have heard of shooters on n PPC doing this mod. However, according to the rules it is disallowed. I have heard of referees DQing shooters in PPC for this specific mod. Any ref could just open the yoke and see it was a 14-3 and know S&W did not make a 14-3 with an under lug barrel.

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Post by Tim:H11 1/25/2021, 7:28 pm

toddcfii wrote:
Wobbley wrote:Well, Smith & Wesson did have a full under lug 14 in their catalog.  If we’re going to parse the rules to specific configurations, you had better have factory records by serial number.

I have heard of shooters on n PPC doing this mod. However, according to the rules it is disallowed. I have heard of referees DQing shooters in PPC for this specific mod. Any ref could just open the yoke and see it was a 14-3 and know S&W did not make a 14-3 with an under lug barrel.

Would they really be that petty? A model 14 was at one time offered with a full length under lug. Is it not legal to clone or rebuild a model 14 with that option? I understand that the particular frame being used wasn’t originally sold with a full length under lug, but it’s not like putting a full length under lug on a model that was never sold with one in the first place. 

I think this is sort of one of those situations where it’s up to the referee or match director but personally I would argue that the barrel is a S&W factory barrel, on a model 14, and model 14’s did come with these barrels from
The factory at one point in time. It’s a clone of a factory gun. Nothing else is on there that would not have been from S&W.
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Post by jjfitch 1/25/2021, 7:36 pm

james r chapman wrote:
jjfitch wrote:Your M14 may have been modified for PPC. The height of the front sight may allow for neck hold at 50 yards! And 14 clicks down for POI/POA at 25/15/7 yards on the regulation B-27 PPC target!

A set of Davis (large) grips and you'd be "golden"!

Smiles,

Does raise the question again about gaming the rules for PPC  though.

3.4 Distinguished Revolver: A factory manufactured (catalog item) revolver

This gun could qualify as a Open Revolver but may not qualify for Distinguished Revolver! 

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Post by Tim:H11 1/25/2021, 7:47 pm

I would still argue it
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Post by Jon Eulette 1/25/2021, 8:04 pm

Spirit of the law vs letter of the law....this revolver should be DR legal. No different than if you had to replace a broken hammer on a 14-3 with a 14-10 hammer. Let’s not get petty about it.
My 2 cents.
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Post by toddcfii 1/25/2021, 10:00 pm

Unfortunately the referees often “get petty”. Remember PPC and Bullseye are different sports with different rules. And BTW I agree with the above post- it would qualify in open just not distinguished.

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Post by buttstock 1/26/2021, 4:56 pm

Thanks. I am trying to sell a nice, accurate revolver, with an honest, accurate disruption. This isn't a discussion thread. If you have a question about the item, I will do my best to answer. If you would like to buy it, please post an "I'll take it" on this thread. It is a fine shooting revolver.

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Post by Jack H 1/26/2021, 5:15 pm

A whole lot of stupid going on if the new factory barrel DQs this gun.
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Post by jjfitch 1/26/2021, 8:26 pm

buttstock wrote:Thanks.  I am trying to sell a nice, accurate revolver, with an honest, accurate disruption.  This isn't a discussion thread.  If you have a question about the item, I will do my best to answer.  If you would like to buy  it, please post an "I'll take it" on this thread.  It is a fine shooting revolver.
You have a great gun at a great price! If I didn't already have a K-38 and M-14 I'd be all over this! 

I see the full underlug barrel as an added bonus for both casual shooters and serious competitors as well. 

All the best,
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Post by CR10X 1/27/2021, 7:15 am

I should not post until after my morning tea.  

Y'all have a nice day. 

I'm going to dryfire now.

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Post by chiz1180 1/27/2021, 7:19 am

What hammer/ trigger combination?

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Post by buttstock 1/28/2021, 4:52 pm

The hammer pad is checkered, ~0.375" wide x 0.50" long.
The trigger is ~ 0.250" wide, uniform thickness, and with vertical grooves.

Thanks for your interest.

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Post by buttstock 2/9/2021, 6:47 pm

Price reduced.

$700 ....to lower 48, INCLUDING shipping/insurance, from my Maine FFL

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Post by OldShooter43 2/10/2021, 6:57 am

This is one great deal!  If I didn't already have a very nice 14-3, I'd grab it (and I'm still tempted!).

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Post by buttstock 2/10/2021, 9:51 am

sale / commitment to purchase pending from "Bakita".  Awaiting his public "I'll take it."  He pm'd his intent to purchase earlier today.  Thanks.

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