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Post by DonBrummer Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm

I wonder if it's any good for Bullseye shooters?  At $99 (shipping now) or $139 (shipping soon) it's certainly reasonable.  There is no .22 option, but they do offer 9, 38, & 45.  If anyone has tried this please provide your feedback.

https://mantisx.com/pages/laser-academy

I have the original MantisX product and find it extreme helpful.  I realized measurable improvement, especially with slow fire.
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Post by GME Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:03 am

I've been using laser training daily for the last few weeks.  I'm using it for 5 purposes: 1.  saving ammo, 2 increasing right arm strength, 3 improving trigger control, 4 reducing group size and 5 improving my hold.  For now, I'm just working with my 1911 wad gun in .45 acp. I am meeting all of my goals.

All you need to do is get a laser cartridge (available on Amazon and elsewhere), copy a suitably sized target available from the internet, and download free software onto your phone.  I haven't tried Mantis X.  I mainly use Laser Hit.  It's pretty reliable.  I also have Strikeman.  Strikeman has some features I like better, but it's hard to get it set up so it doesn't malfunction, i.e, register hits that haven't been fired.  I tried it again a couple days ago.  When I told it to start, it would register 10 phantom hits at a rapid fire rate before I could even turn to walk to the firing line.

As far as targets are concerned, I use a 50 foot target meeting NRA specs and available in PDF forma on the net.

I shoot every morning.  I shoot a minimum of 150 shots up to 200 shot.  Since I don't take a rest break, 200 rounds are about as much as my right arm can handle.  I'm noticing an increase in strength and my wobble is getting smaller.

I don't even try to do anything but slow fire.  There's no way to simulate timed and rapid.  Even if you rack the slide and shoot as fast as you can, it won't be the same as sustained fire.  

I'm quickly learning to call my shots.  Since there is no ignition, I find it easer to keep my eyes open when the shots break.  I use a red dot, which helps me see every mistake and success.  I'm able to call the shot pretty accurately more than 9 times out of ten.  The practice translates to range with live fire.  I went to the range last week.
I was able to keep both my eyes open when the shots broke for pretty much each  of the 100 shots.  YMMV


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Post by devildog Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:03 pm

I have a setup that looks suspiciously similar.
LaserHIT
Like maybe from the same factory somewhere in the world.

I have about 22' for dry-fire in my home office.  I made some reduced target dots and the setup works well with them. I honestly don't know if I am accomplishing anything but I'm having fun with it.

I wish one of these companies would come out with a .22 cartridge.
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Post by GME Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:19 am

I made an observation pretty early on with laser training.  If my hold and trigger control are good, I don't see the laser flash on the target.  My red dot set at only 2 moa hides it.  However, if I pull the shot, even a very little bit, I see the flash.  

It's easy to fall into unconsciously looking for the flash.  I fell into that trap pretty quickly, and my shooting suffered.  The cure was concentrating on the target and where the red dot from the scope is immediately after the shot  (aka follow through).  When I stopped looking for the laser flash, my shooting returned to where it had been before and improved from there.

FWiW, at the range, I score my targets like a competition.  With laser training, I don't bother to keep score.  For every 10 round string, I just keep track of how many shots are in the black, how many out, of that odd flyer.  I also make notations about the group (or absence of ) and where the clusters are.

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