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Hammerli 208/215 Trigger weight of pull

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Post by SilentAssassin 6/17/2021, 4:46 pm

I have been looking hard at Hammerli.

Presently , I'm shooting a Volquartsen Scorpion Nitride SS. The weight of pull is not adjustable. It lets off at about 2Lb's
My Dilemma here is that I do not want to buy an expensive handgun ( Hammerli)  with an adjustable trigger that can't go down to at least 2 Lb's
and preferably below 2 Lbs.
I'm not a Bullseye shooter. So below 2 Lbs would be acceptable and preferred.

Maybe I should just go and get a Pardini?

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Post by Jon Eulette 6/17/2021, 5:17 pm

Hammerli can be adjusted below 2#. Pardini trigger will never equal a properly adjusted Hammerli trigger pull. Pardini trigger is the weak link in the system.
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Post by Tripscape 6/17/2021, 8:13 pm

If I remember it correct I set my past Pardini to 800g once, which is 1.7-8 lbs. However, do not look at weight alone, it's how trigger lets off. I had 2lb triggers that felt heavier than 3.5lb triggers. Amount of sear engagement plays huge role here, as well as engagement angles. Now you cannot change angles in Pardini, but you absolutely can change sear engagement quite easily. I did not play with Hammerli trigger much on my also past 215s, it was quite nice. Pardini was much more adjustable by mechanical possibilities alone, which  did try and yes it is extremely adjustable.

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Post by SilentAssassin 6/17/2021, 9:25 pm

thank you two fellows.
I owuld like to own a hammerli badly, but im kinda scaring myself out of it.
I'm afraid to buy a 40-50 year old handgun, and then have it be less accurate than what I already have, off sand bags or a rest.
The option that I have is a 208 Jubilee. It's not cheap.

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Post by Ed Hall 6/18/2021, 6:48 am

SilentAssassin wrote:. . .
I'm afraid to buy a 40-50 year old handgun, and then have it be less accurate than what I already have, off sand bags or a rest.
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Keep in mind that the Hammerlis were built as 25 Meter guns.  With the right ammo, they will hold the X-ring at 50 yards, but I have seen M41s and High Standards that will place a good amount of the rounds in a single widening hole.  So, your fear is not unfounded.  OTOH, the allure of the Hammerlis is the adjustability and comfort of shooting.  There is a reason why a fair amount of MA/HM competitors have been using Hammerlis.

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Post by jglenn21 6/18/2021, 9:19 am

Not to mention that the AMU still uses the 208S pistols
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Post by SilentAssassin 6/18/2021, 2:26 pm

This is what I am shooting now. Lasered 25 yards.
This is from sand bags and for me, it's not easy to do. I cant help but feel that it could be better.
I like the gun because I can hang weapons lights on it, throw a bipod on it, Or any scope /red dot, muzzle brake, suppressor . Just about anything you want to do.

I've had some groups better and some worse.

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Post by chiz1180 6/18/2021, 2:32 pm

Honestly that is probably very close to what you would get from any of the higher end target pistols.

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Post by CraigB5940 6/18/2021, 3:14 pm

I have a late model 215 with a two stage trigger, so it's just like a 208S except that it does not have the trigger blade adjustable fore and aft. I also have a Pardini SP. Before I got into BE competition and shooting one handed, I shot a Rugher MK III with the same trigger and sear you probably have in your gun, it broke at 2 LB.  I really think the top $$$ you will be laying down for a 208S, especially the Jubilee model  aren't going to be a benefit to you unless you are a BE Competitor. Sure the late model two stage trigger on the 208S oozes pleasure when it breaks, but when you are shooting two handed it's not noticed as much. In some regards the trigger on my 215 does feel smoother than the my Pardini SP but the ergonomics of the Pardini more than make up the difference for me.

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Post by SilentAssassin 6/18/2021, 4:17 pm

I've had the Smith and Wesson M41. Tricked out with a Clark barrel and a trigger job.
It was accurate. But , it was unreliable as the day is long. It made 3 trips back to Smith and Wesson and they never did fix the problem.
Thus ending all my days with Smith and Wesson. Never again.

The Volquartsen pictured above Never, I mean Never, jams up.
I can't remember if these two targets were at 17 yards or 50 feet. 6 of one half dozen of the other I guess.
It's a pure beast at this range. It makes me wonder how it can pierce one small hole over and over at this range, but then fall apart 10 yards further downrange.

I may well be wasting my time........but I still like the looks of the Hammerli S, and would like to have one.
Update: I think I may have finally found what I've been searching for thanks to a member of  this site.
I will be paying dearly for it. I've worked a lot of long hours to be able to purchase it from him. Worked hard for it.
Lots of heat and sweat. I'm thankful that he contacted me.

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Post by zanemoseley 6/18/2021, 5:26 pm

I've had several target 22's:

Older A series S&W 41
Newer PC S&W 41 tuned by Roddy Toyota
Ruger MKIV with Volquartsen Kit
Volquartsen Olympic pistol
Older all steel GSP
A couple 1911 conversions, one on a custom frame.
208S
Matchguns MG2

The 208S is by far my favorite. Best balance, best trigger and really like the Larry's dot mount that uses the weight dovetail, quickly converts to irons. Not much to dislike except price and parts availability. Also been very reliable. Best of all if you don't like it you should get your cash back because they're in demand.

When you get into target 22's a lot becomes subjective. Just gotta find the one that works for you.

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