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Post by DeweyHales Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:29 am

M9 9mm Hardball load
4.8-5.0gr N340
115gr Precision Delta FMJs
Starline cases
CCI, Wolf, Fiocchi, or Winchester primers
1.120"-1.145" OAL
Crimp to 0.378-0.376


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Post by DavidR Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:15 pm

For those guys that want to list your hardball loads, i will add them to this sticky section as they come in, try and list all the info, bullet caliber and weight, brand and type, case brand, new or used, powder weight, crimp, primer, oal, velocity and group size and how you tested it. Dewey, list all the details and i will add yours as the first. We cant take for granted a new reloader knows what we are talking about unless we tell them things like 9MM or 45ACP and other details to build a accurate and safe round.


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Post by C.Perkins Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:24 pm

This is my 9mm hardball load.
Beretta 92FS with a KKM slow twist 1/32 barrel

Sierra 115gr FMJ Tournament Master bullet
Once fired Starline brass
Winchester small pistol primer
1.127" Overall length
.377" crimp
4.8gr VV-N340 powder
Approx. 1120 fps.

Currently working on a soft ball load for the short line.
Stay tuned.

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Post by davekp Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:16 am

9mm:
115 gr sierra fmj
starline brass
federal primers
4.8 gr  titegroup 
1.151 OAL
2 7/8" c-c, 10 shots , ransom rest, 50 yds

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Post by XXXXXXXXXX Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:38 am

9mm KKM barrel:
115gr Zero fmj
Starline brass
Winchester Primer
5.1 WSF
1.130" OAL
.377" crimp

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Post by DavidR Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:54 am

Anybody using the 124 fmj for hardball, or load with W231-Hp38?
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Post by Motorcycle_dan Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:08 pm

My thoughts as well.  I have 2 Beretta 9mm both have the KKM barrel fitted.  One is just a police turn in with the KKM fitted, no rails, no other accurizing.  It still has the fixed sights.  And it was with this pistol I earned my first P-100 badge.  Using factory Lawman 9mm 124gr FMJ.  But since then trying various reloads I can't get any to work as well as that factory Lawman ammo.
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Post by DeweyHales Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:05 am

I have seen more and more people using 5.2 to 5.4 of N340. 

As we've gone through the great powder shortage, I've tested 4.5 of Promo.  It has nearly identical average speed and lower standard deviations than 5.2 N340. 

I know pistol shooters don't chrono much, but I thought I would add the data.
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Post by Chris Miceli Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:28 am

Any one tested JHP since the CMP has changed ammo rules?


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Post by james r chapman Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:47 am

Christopher Miceli wrote:Any tested JHP since the CMP has changed ammo rules?

Nah, my "9"'s a 1911...
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Post by DeweyHales Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:20 am

Christopher Miceli wrote:Any one tested JHP since the CMP has changed ammo rules?
HAP and XTPs are both outstanding. You shouldn't have to change your dies. Just substitute bullets as a start.
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Post by PaPow Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:05 pm

DavidR wrote:Anybody using the 124 fmj for hardball, or load with W231-Hp38?
Absolutely.... but always start with a low powder charge and work your way up.
9mm (Copper Jacketed FMJ)
HP38 & WW231 @ 4.2grains
Primer: WW - WSP
Seated: 1.150

Another really nice load is: (this one is my all time favorite...burns very clean...VERY accurate!!!)
9mm (Berry`s Plated 124grn Flat Solid Base)
Hodgdon CFE @ 4.9grains
Primer: WW - WSP
Seated: 1.150

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Post by PaPow Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:09 pm

DeweyHales wrote:
Christopher Miceli wrote:Any one tested JHP since the CMP has changed ammo rules?
HAP and XTPs are both outstanding. You shouldn't have to change your dies. Just substitute bullets as a start.
I stopped buying hornady bullets...i could never get the accuracy i wanted. Many better choices out there to chose from IMO.
The HAP bullets i was getting for my 9mm`s, were all inconsistently oversized. (.356 was the smallest...very dissapointed)

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Post by daflorc Fri May 05, 2017 3:15 pm

Gun - 9mm Les Baer w/ Kart 1:16 barrel
9mm Zero JHP
Zero 115 grain bullets
OAL - 1.14
Crimp - .375
Powder - 4.8 grains of HP-38

Gun - 9mm Les Baer w/ Kart 1:16 barrel
9mm Berry's Plated
Berry's Plated 124 grain bullets
OAL - 1.15
Crimp - .375
Powder - 5 grains of N340

This load is only accurate on the short line, and falls apart on the long line.

Gun - 9mm Les Baer w/ Kart 1:16 barrel
9mm Acme 122
Acme 122 grain coated bullets
OAL - 1.14
Crimp - .375
Powder - 4.6 grains of VV N340

Only tested on the short line


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Post by noylj Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:30 pm

Can any one list 25 and 50 yard accuracy with their loads and what twist rate they are using?

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Post by hardmanwelams Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:29 am

DavidR wrote:Anybody using the 124 fmj for hardball, or load with W231-Hp38?
yeah i use it too

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Post by DanQ Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:34 pm

DeweyHales wrote:I have seen more and more people using 5.2 to 5.4 of N340. 

As we've gone through the great powder shortage, I've tested 4.5 of Promo.  It has nearly identical average speed and lower standard deviations than 5.2 N340. 

I know pistol shooters don't chrono much, but I thought I would add the data.
What speeds did you see, Dewey?  Vihtahuori website puts that somewhere between 1198 and 1301 fps if I'm reading it correct.  I'm thinking of working up a load for my Beretta and running iron sights for the rest of this season.

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Post by minelabbob Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:50 am

DavidR wrote:Anybody using the 124 fmj for hardball, or load with W231-Hp38?

one of my go to load using W 231 124gr. RMR BULLET FP.  with 4.3g. of w 231 @ 1.100
                                                  115gr. xtp   BULLET  with 4.3g. of w 231 @ 1.090

both of them loads work on 1911/9mm and my G 19 9mm Hardball Loads   1883569342

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