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Post by Danehogle 11/12/2024, 12:15 pm

NRA Pistol National Championships to Cardinal ! 
    
First, I would like to set the record straight. In 2019, Cardinal started the 4 Gun Showdown as the third match in Ohio. This match was scheduled in front of the Bickar Memorial held at Canton McKinley, not to compete with it but to enhance the overall experience in Ohio. That year as some know, the NRA announced they were moving to Camp Atterbury for 2020 when competitors were on the firing line at the first Cardinal match. 

Now after 5 years at Atterbury, we see the NRA has made the decision to move yet again. So, Cardinal has been in talks with the NRA to bring the 2025 NRA National Pistol Championships back home to Ohio. I am happy to announce that the agreement has now been reached and contract signed. For more information on registration, camping/ RV spots visit the Cardinal website starting in 2025.  https://www.thecardinalcenter.com/shooting-center and https://www.redfeatheroutfitters.com

How would this work?  Well here is how. The Cardinal 4 gun match is now replaced by the new NRA National Pistol Championship. The proposed dates are July 5th - 9th. 
The NRA NPC would now become the first round of the Ohio triple crown. The Triple Crown will be the 2700 scores from the NRA NPC, The Bickar Memorial held at Canton McKinley, and the CMP,s National Matches.
Cardinal would be responsible for the running of the  entire match.
Cardinal is also working on lunch and dinner options like at Canton McKinley, along with a swap meet and other side events such as trap,skeet,sporting clays combinations. This would now decrease the amount of time and vacation one would have to use to compete in the three largest bullseye pistol matches in the country to two weeks. 

Here is the tentative schedule.
July 6th Sunday
08:00- registration opens 
10:00- opening ceremonies
11:00 - Harry Reeves revolver match 
12:00 - preliminary  900 

July 7th  Monday
08:00 relay 1 .22 900
10:00 relay 2 .22 900
12:00 lunch
12:30 team .22 matches
14:00 .22 EIC

July 8th Tuesday
08:00 relay 1 CF 900
10:00 relay 2 CF 900
12:00 lunch
12:30 team CF matches
14:00 NRA distinguished revolver

July 9th Wednesday
08:00 relay 1 .45 900
10:00 relay 2  .45 900
12:00 lunch
12:30 team .45 matches
14:00 service pistol EIC
18:00  NRA Cardinal Awards Program

July 10th   Thursday ( if needed ) make up day, travel day
08:00  international Free pistol NRA National Pistol Championships to Cardinal Img_0210
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Post by mhayford45 11/16/2024, 10:39 am

I have checked the NRA website and the Cardinal website and nothing is published about this. Is this going to happen?

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Post by bragrhmbln 11/16/2024, 12:51 pm

I think it is just called the canton match, or maybe the canton McKinley match.

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Post by Grouse 11/16/2024, 3:02 pm

mhayford45 wrote:I have checked the NRA website and the Cardinal website and nothing is published about this. Is this going to happen?
According to Dane Hogle via the above  and personal communication that deal to bring the NRA Championships was JUST finalized, therefore I doubt you would find it in print or online just yet. It is happening!

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Post by shanneba 11/20/2024, 3:48 pm

NRA Announcement today.

NRA Announces 2025 National Matches Locations & Schedule | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal

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Post by john bickar 11/20/2024, 4:25 pm

bragrhmbln wrote:I think it is just called the canton match, or maybe the canton McKinley match.

(well ackshually)

It is the Frank J. Bickar Memorial CMP Championship.

For, well, going on probably 50 years now, the Canton McKinley Rifle and Pistol Club has worked to provide the greatest Bullseye Pistol match experience on the planet. That was Frank's vision, and why the match is named in his honor.

Over the course of those 50 years, I have seen some contenders come and go. The more the merrier, I say. Everybody should run an awesome Bullseye Pistol match. Lobsters in Maine, smoked BBQ and a low-country boil in SC, shoot-two-2700s-plus-every-International-event-in-one-week in AZ, catch fish every afternoon in Indiana after shooting a 900 at Camp Atterbury. I like to see the sport thrive.

I try to run two awesome matches every year in California. We'll feed you; come on out. If you can find a place better-situated to shoot a PB, I'm on the first plane there.

We appreciate everyone's patronage of our match at Canton; we couldn't do it without you.

See y'all in Canton next year.


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Post by bragrhmbln 11/20/2024, 4:53 pm

i just meant how to search for it on the nra website, there isn't a bickar ohio or bickar anywhere i don't think. glad it is a nice match.

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Post by james r chapman 11/20/2024, 5:02 pm

Among other places using search, after all, GOOGLE is your friend.

https://huntinglife.com/pistol-competitors-encouraged-to-shoot-the-ohio-triple-crown-matches/
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Post by john bickar 11/20/2024, 5:24 pm

bragrhmbln wrote:there isn't a bickar ohio or bickar anywhere i don't think

I have four Bickars within arm's length, and I have verifiable proof that there was a Bickar in Ohio as recently as July.

We'll just agree to disagree then. Laughing
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Post by SingleActionAndrew 11/20/2024, 5:32 pm

It looks like I will get to see Cardinal! But I miss the view and surrounding report of machine guns and artillery from my two trips to Atterbury
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Post by bragrhmbln 11/20/2024, 8:01 pm

john bickar wrote:
bragrhmbln wrote:there isn't a bickar ohio or bickar anywhere i don't think

I have four Bickars within arm's length, and I have verifiable proof that there was a Bickar in Ohio as recently as July.

We'll just agree to disagree then. Laughing

my daughter says I should be kind to people like you who when shown they were in error, and even done kindly, and they just insist that they were right all along, to just let it go, because they can't. is it weird to be wrong so frequently like all of us normal people to just saty you know this doesn't apply to me because what ? you should try it.

i admit that I was in local 1, and did not have all the ins and outs of best writting. my apologies. i worked for a living, started with boilermakers and retired in pipefitting. Lost the wife when my daughter was 10 and my son 8, but did the best i could and got lucky with the in;aws to help me. thank christ for nancy and walt, saevd my bacon more than i could repay. but i did work for a living, and my kids ended up great, one teaching here and the other in alabama. smart like there mother. don't think you could understand any of that, as you know so much.

the world is accident and error. maybe you haven't had any yet. hope you don't

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Post by john bickar 11/21/2024, 1:05 am

Dane, is the NRA sending staff in for this event, or is going to be me and Tony running the Stat Office until 8PM again? Laughing
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Post by NYKenn 11/21/2024, 10:11 am

Time will tell, as both NRA and Cardinal have people who can make significant contributions to conduct a professional and well run match!

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Post by james r chapman 11/21/2024, 11:45 am

NYKenn wrote:Time will tell, as both NRA and Cardinal have people who can make significant contributions to conduct a professional and well run match!

Why? Did John and Tony volunteer again? Question
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Post by john bickar 11/21/2024, 2:00 pm

james r chapman wrote:
NYKenn wrote:Time will tell, as both NRA and Cardinal have people who can make significant contributions to conduct a professional and well run match!

Why? Did John and Tony volunteer again? Question

Neither of us ever really raised our hands, but we did get results out for competitors by the end of each day this year.

Cardinal was odd this year. Many organizational changes shortly before the match. Tail end of a hurricane blew in. Things went sideways; it happens.

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Looking forward to next year. I'm hoping that the NRA will bring some logistical heft.

Regardless, we roll with the punches.
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Post by PhotoEscape 11/21/2024, 3:33 pm

Let's clear some smog here, folks!  And I encourage everyone to forger about PC and other BS!  This is my 30K view, I do not pretend to be 100% correct or accurate.  Yet......... take John's "I got fired 'cause management was restructuring" clip to the heart!

So, with Hendu (Jim Henderson) taking on the bigger role at CMP (and leaving amid things), Dane being PO-fed at NRA, Cardinal, OH state folks and everyone else, Grace (she is the engine behind it all, IMHO!) leaving to count cows in WI, Chris and other OH folks at Cardinal left without clear guidance as to what leg to move next, Tony and John had no choice but to step in for the benefit of the all shooters.  They had group of helpers too, and "new" guys put their efforts in way above 100%, - don't remember the name, but there was a young fellow who literally was the first in in the morning and last out in the evening.  Kudos to all for 2024 Cardinal match that was destine to be a great disaster and ended up just fine.

Thus, with NRA back to pulling its head out of ....., Dane seem to be more interested and engaged, Cardinal folks gaining experience I really hope that Cardinal 2025 will be a banner match.  You can count on me coming!  And I am sure, that Tony and John will be there and ready to help!

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Post by Danehogle 11/21/2024, 8:56 pm

Ok people…
It is November… so relax a bit. The dates above are real so you can get that vacation request in as soon as you needed. 
As for the NRA NPC’s, Cardinal is working on making this match one to remember. More food, more help, more everything… and that takes time to get. Cardinal has a plan. 
If you didn’t know, this is the 8th and 9th national championship that
Is held at Cardinal every year. ( yes, Cardinal also will host the NRA Smallbore nationals.) 
So, if you got questions…. Ask me… 
Want to volunteer…. Contact me… 
Want to shoot the match…. I let you know when registration is up and running…..
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