32 SWL, Loading 64 grain SWC, T&B bullets, Pardini HP 32

Do any of the shooters in this forum have any reloading experience loading the 64 grain, T&B bullets backwards in a 32 Smith & Wesson Long? Or loading this bullet the normal way we load a wadcutter? 

Happy New Year!!

Brian Miller

I loaded and shot the 64gr swc in a 32S&W Short case using a Walther GSP S&W Long chambered barrel.
It worked, but I never shot it at 50yards. Too cold this late in the year.

Hello Wes!!
Thanks for sharing your experience. If I understand you loaded this in a 32 ACP case and fired this in a S&W Long Walther barrel. 

Do you normally load the 32 ACP as your primary Bullseye gun and the 64 grain SWC bullet. Did you load the SWC backward or the normal orientation? What is the OAL and powder charge? 

I'm only thinking about this because it's 20 grain less of a bullet then the 83 Lapua I'm using and less recoil.  

We don't shoot 50 yards anytime and yes it's way too cold as I live in Saginaw, Michigan. 

Thanks again Wes!!

Hi Brian,
I loaded them in a S&W "Short" case like a normal SWC, not backwards.
The rim diameter is the same on the Short & Long cases, so I didn't need an ACP bolt face. I did weld up a GSP bolt for my buddy who re-machined it to an ACP configuration.
You could shorten Long cases and use the 64gr SWC's at the same OAL as a standard Long case.
I sold my two .32 Star Reloaders and all the bullets I had for 32acp due to health, so I'm done with 32's.
There's nothing wrong with 83gr bullets at 25yds, just use a minimum amount of powder to function.
Or experiment till it works; that's one of the fun parts of bullseye when you get old, worn out and the best part of the match is lunch after with your buddies!

I load the 32 S&W Long for both the Walther GSP and the Matchguns MG4 EVO Rapid Fire (1 screw take-down).  

Have always liked the GSP (22 and 32).  Extremely rare to have an issue with either the pistol or ammo.  The more I shoot the MG4, the more I really like it.  To me, much better trigger.  Both have Horton grips.  Took some time to figure out the MG4 and get used to it.  The MG4 is now the preferred pistol.  Unfortunately, Matchguns went "sneakers up" with no estimate IF or when they may reappear under new ownership.

T&B 64 grain SWC (coated)
Seating depth is such that the tip is flush with the brass.  Means that the shoulder is WELL BELOW the edge of the case. Looks weird but works.
Heavy roll crimp.  Have done that for several years to facilitate feeding in the Walther GSP.  Continued to do so in the Matchguns MG4.  See no reason to adjust.

R-P or Lapua brass.

1.5 Clays.  Center aim for 25 yards and 12 O'Clock high on the edge of black for 50 yards.
1.1 N310 for 25 yards
1.3 N310 for 25 yards
2.0 Titegroup for 50 yards

Also use Lapua 83 grain WC and Speer 98 WC.  Tend to work well but not as good as the T&B 64 SWC.

Your gun may not result in the same as my 2 so above are starting points except for Clays.  I would never go above 1.5 grains.  Pressure with Clays seems to spike very quickly as load amounts increase.