A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
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A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
25 yard timed fire pace, lots of wind. I went to the range primarily to test the centerfire gun after making a sear change. I put it up after 30 rounds and decided to go ahead and shoot the 22. It was a bonus day with the 22, so I was relaxed and just got the dot in the bull and moved the trigger, never backing off. The wind was buffeting the gun and I couldn't really call the shots well. My eyes said the shots were good, but I expected them to not be so good.
Here is the video of the results.
Obviously, I was pleased, since this is all new to me. Seems I shoot best when I just execute each shot with no concern over anything except executing. On a calm day, I expect to shoot well, and sometimes don't. It's all in my mind.
Joe
Here is the video of the results.
Obviously, I was pleased, since this is all new to me. Seems I shoot best when I just execute each shot with no concern over anything except executing. On a calm day, I expect to shoot well, and sometimes don't. It's all in my mind.
Joe
Joe L- Posts : 137
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Re: A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
Timed and Rapid is mainly mental execution. At our clinic Zins recommended slow fire at 25 yards to learn the boundaries of where your dot can be and still shoot a 10 or an X when you shoot sustained fire.
sixftunda- Posts : 455
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Re: A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
You bout got that bronc broke!
BE Mike- Posts : 2523
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Re: A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
Thanks, gentlemen, I think I will be happy to shoot in the wind next match. Most folks won't want to shoot in the wind. Here is a video of Target 9 for anyone interested.
This is fun.
Joe
This is fun.
Joe
Joe L- Posts : 137
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Re: A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
I ran across a comment while searching forums about Bill Blankenship practising in the rain and wind: http://tonybrong.blogspot.com/2007/07/hitch-hikers-guide-to-camp-perry.html
Being a long time acquaintance of Mr. Murphy I practice for several errors, not for the perfect.
Being a long time acquaintance of Mr. Murphy I practice for several errors, not for the perfect.
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Re: A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
Sa-tevp, thanks for posting the link. Interesting about training in bad weather. For me, I seem to shoot well in bad weather because I am relaxed and can just execute without worrying about scores. However, I have to say that I did well today in relatively calm conditions. I shot my second 100. This was the best target out of 5, averaged 96.6-2.8x for the 5. I was happy.
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Joe L- Posts : 137
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THat's fantastic Joe! Every 100 is an accomplishment!
Are you going to make plans to come to camp perry for .22 and CF days? If not this year, I hope to see you there in the future!
Are you going to make plans to come to camp perry for .22 and CF days? If not this year, I hope to see you there in the future!
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Re: A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
Rob Kovach wrote:Are you going to make plans to come to camp perry for .22 and CF days? If not this year, I hope to see you there in the future!
Rob, I need to learn to shoot well in a local match before thinking about Camp Perry. Give me a few years.
I'm still working on the plastic gun for centerfire also. I trimmed the trigger guard today to eliminate some finger contact as the sear starts to move. It's been bugging me for a month. When I can shoot 5 good targets in a row with the centerfire gun, we'll talk. I can still average about 4 points/target higher with the 22 than with the centerfire. I've shot some 98s and 99s but not a 100 yet with the plastic gun. Maybe next range trip, if it's windy and I'm not thinking about the scores, just executing.
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Re: A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
You are in control of whether you are thinking about scores or not.
Most shooters at camp perry aren't shooting targets in a 90+ average. Don't let the venue freak you out! It's just a cool place for everyone to shoot.
Just like shooting well isn't about score, neither is shooting at Camp Perry. It's about executing the best you can--just like every other match except it's like a huge grown-up summer camp for adults.
Most shooters at camp perry aren't shooting targets in a 90+ average. Don't let the venue freak you out! It's just a cool place for everyone to shoot.
Just like shooting well isn't about score, neither is shooting at Camp Perry. It's about executing the best you can--just like every other match except it's like a huge grown-up summer camp for adults.
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Thanks, Rob. You have been very helpful since the first post I made on this site. Summer camp for adults sounds great!
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Doing good Joe. I repeat what I said elsewhere...
I stopwatched your strings. You take too long. You got to speed it up if you are going to do rapid fire. Start working on rhythmic trigger and sighting as a duo. I don't mean look for a cadence. Look for a rhythm of what you are doing in each shot from settle and trigger pressure to follow through and recovery
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I stopwatched your strings. You take too long. You got to speed it up if you are going to do rapid fire. Start working on rhythmic trigger and sighting as a duo. I don't mean look for a cadence. Look for a rhythm of what you are doing in each shot from settle and trigger pressure to follow through and recovery
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Re: A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
What's the difference between "cadence" and "rhythm"?
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They are rather synonymous
My rapid fire interpretation:
Cadence in rapid fire is just a count 1-2-3-4-5; bang-bang-bang-----bang---bang.
Oops! I lost rhythm after shot three. Therefore broke cadence.
Rhythm is in the over all flow of performance of each shot of the series from each settle to recovery. Settle-sight and trigger-bang-followthrough-recovery, repeat.
World English Dictionary
Add that there is not a definite line between each of Settle-sight and trigger-bang-followthrough-recovery, repeat.
It's a rhythmic flow.
My rapid fire interpretation:
Cadence in rapid fire is just a count 1-2-3-4-5; bang-bang-bang-----bang---bang.
Oops! I lost rhythm after shot three. Therefore broke cadence.
Rhythm is in the over all flow of performance of each shot of the series from each settle to recovery. Settle-sight and trigger-bang-followthrough-recovery, repeat.
World English Dictionary
cadence or cadency (ˈkeɪd ə ns) | |
— n , pl -dences , -dencies | |
1. | the beat or measure of something rhythmic |
Add that there is not a definite line between each of Settle-sight and trigger-bang-followthrough-recovery, repeat.
It's a rhythmic flow.
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Re: A good day in the wind today, but I'm not absolutely sure why
Jack H--you are right, I am taking too long. I'll set aside one day to do 10 targets rapid fire only and see if I can develop some sort of rhythm. Of course, it could be windy in a match as well, so I really shouldn't use that as an excuse. Shooting within the rapid fire time frame will also shorten the videos, too, LOL.
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