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Post by Tim:H11 Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:46 pm

I have a Ruger MKIII Target with a red dot mounted on top I've been toying with and I'm curious about seeing what a dot on 45 seems like. My Range Officer is not drilled or tapped for a rail or mount and the easiest way to try a dot I thought was to try the option of a grip like mounted rail that goes up along side the gun and hovers over the slide. Is this a good system? What are your opinions on mounting a dot this way?
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Post by Jon Eulette Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:55 pm

Grip mounts are fine. They mount scope higher than slide mount, etc, but not the end of the world. I use a grip mount to test all the pistols I build that have iron sights. I've shot 889 cf with grip mount. Make sure grip screws are oiled and snug. Keep eye to make sure they are tight. A left side mount is preferable to right side: too thick and messes with grip.
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Post by james r chapman Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:56 pm

Unless your left handed, hehe.
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Post by Tim:H11 Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:24 pm

Any chance the dot gets mounted high enough to still use irons?
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Post by james r chapman Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:49 pm

http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/rings-mounts-bases/handgun-bases/1911-auto-grip-scope-mount-prod63.aspx

This one example. It works well enough to start with. It also allows use of the open sights. I just use the grip screws and forego the hammer and MSH pins.

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Post by Regular_Guy Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:14 pm

Is there any need for something like a blue Loctite versus just having clean/oiled screws?
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Post by Jon Eulette Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:27 pm

Some grip mounts have extra mounting screws. I never used them. 1911's have grip estucheons (bushings). The bushings are staked in. If you over tighten grip screws the bushing can get stuck to the screw and come out of the frame when removing the grip screw. Oil helps to keep screw from sticking and removing the bushing. So I actually always oil my grip screws. But I'm highly recommending oiling the screws if using a grip mount.
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Post by james r chapman Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:24 pm

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Post by Al Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:21 pm

When I first started I used an NPC mount that replaced the left grip panel.  I had no idea whether I wanted a slide or frame mount, but I knew my eye's were bad enough to need a dot.  Eventually I went with the slide mount, but the grip mount gave me the time to decide which direction I wanted to go.

As was mentioned, it does mount the dot up pretty high. but I don't remember if you could see the open sights under it.  If I can find it at home i'll slap it on my hardball gun & be able to tell you if the open sights can be used with it mounted.
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Post by Tim:H11 Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:23 pm

If anyone has a spare left side mounting peice they'd like to sell please let me know. All the ones I've found online so far are right side mounting.
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Post by DavidR Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:08 am

it doesn't matter if your left handed, as the grip is flat, and the rail is centered over the slide. brownells has them on sale now for 54.95
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Post by james r chapman Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:16 pm

If your left handed your not having to have your hand on the flat, the same reason as stated a right hander would like a left side mount.
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