WST powder for 38 target loads ?
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WST powder for 38 target loads ?
Is WST powder a good choice for some 38 spl 148 gr hbwc's. This would be for a S&W model 19.
rebs- Posts : 273
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
JIMPGOV
"REMINGTON 148HBWC WITH 2.7 GR WST, FLUSH OR JUST BELOW FLUSH, REDDING PROFILE CRIMP."
2.9-3.1 of 231 is also popular. Zero bullets are widely used as well
"REMINGTON 148HBWC WITH 2.7 GR WST, FLUSH OR JUST BELOW FLUSH, REDDING PROFILE CRIMP."
2.9-3.1 of 231 is also popular. Zero bullets are widely used as well
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Chris Miceli- Posts : 2715
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
Not only is it good, most say it's the best.
desben- Posts : 385
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
+1 As accurate as BE but cleaner and softer at 2.7 gn. Just be careful not to go past 3.0 with a HBWC....desben wrote:Not only is it good, most say it's the best.
rich.tullo- Posts : 1999
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Oh, yeah. It's great stuff, not to be confused with WSF!
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YES 2.7 GR WST WITH THE HBWC IS THE WAY TO GO. JP
JIMPGOV- Posts : 654
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
I found that WST was only accurate at about 1.5gn, and it wasn't accurate enough for me to change powder. It will work, but there are other powders that, in my guns, are better.
Even old Uniquewas as accurate and accurate over a wide range of charge weights.
I loathe Clays, but even it has been better than WST in my guns.
2.3gn of Trail Boss and Remington HBWCs gave me test groups of 1.406, 1.031, 1.188, 1.188, 1.375, 1.094, and 1.031" at 25 yards (without called flyer, the 1.094" group was a 4-shot 0.517" group).
So, it all depends on your gun.
Even old Uniquewas as accurate and accurate over a wide range of charge weights.
I loathe Clays, but even it has been better than WST in my guns.
2.3gn of Trail Boss and Remington HBWCs gave me test groups of 1.406, 1.031, 1.188, 1.188, 1.375, 1.094, and 1.031" at 25 yards (without called flyer, the 1.094" group was a 4-shot 0.517" group).
So, it all depends on your gun.
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
Unusual,to say the least!
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+1james r chapman wrote:Unusual,to say the least!
rich.tullo- Posts : 1999
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
I just noticed WST is also a shotgun powder.
rebs- Posts : 273
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
rebs, a lot of shotgun powders are also used as pistol powders (or vice-versa?)... Hi-Skor 700-X, Clays, WST, WSF, Red Dot, Unique, etc.
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
Anyone try Redot for Bulls eye looks like it would work?desben wrote:rebs, a lot of shotgun powders are also used as pistol powders (or vice-versa?)... Hi-Skor 700-X, Clays, WST, WSF, Red Dot, Unique, etc.
rich.tullo- Posts : 1999
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
I tried it one time, it shot ok. Try 2.8 gr.
The 1985 Hercules pamphlet listed the following as starting loads for 148 LWC:
Bullseye 2.6gr; RedDot 2.8gr; GreenDot 2.9gr; Unique 3.5gr.
I have shot these loads except for the GreenDot and all were equally accurate. In a early 1970s issue of Handloader, they tested all kinds of powder and bullet combinations and one of the most accurate loads in several guns was 3.7 of Unique.
YMMV
The 1985 Hercules pamphlet listed the following as starting loads for 148 LWC:
Bullseye 2.6gr; RedDot 2.8gr; GreenDot 2.9gr; Unique 3.5gr.
I have shot these loads except for the GreenDot and all were equally accurate. In a early 1970s issue of Handloader, they tested all kinds of powder and bullet combinations and one of the most accurate loads in several guns was 3.7 of Unique.
YMMV
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
How well does wst meter in a powder drop ?
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
I loaded some 148 gr Zero hbwc's with 2.7 of WST and was amazed, very accurate and hardly no residue on my model 19. I will use up the bullseye I have and then buy more WST
Thank you guys for the info on this powder.
Thank you guys for the info on this powder.
rebs- Posts : 273
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
hard to beat for 38spl or 45acp.rebs wrote:I loaded some 148 gr Zero hbwc's with 2.7 of WST and was amazed, very accurate and hardly no residue on my model 19. I will use up the bullseye I have and then buy more WST
Thank you guys for the info on this powder.
rich.tullo- Posts : 1999
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
Some people have complained about metering with WST, it is very flaky and tends to stick to powder measures.
Things that work well for me to provide more even throws are cleaning the entire powder measure with an electrical contact cleaner, putting a dryer sheet in on top of the powder (a long thin strip that can just accordion in there on top of the powder) and to ground the powder measure with speaker or electrical wires to a good ground. This gets rid of all static and makes the throws very consistent.
Things that work well for me to provide more even throws are cleaning the entire powder measure with an electrical contact cleaner, putting a dryer sheet in on top of the powder (a long thin strip that can just accordion in there on top of the powder) and to ground the powder measure with speaker or electrical wires to a good ground. This gets rid of all static and makes the throws very consistent.
SmokinNJokin- Posts : 850
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
I also have my Hornady LNL and Dillon SDB presses grounded like SmokinNJokin, and get very consistent drops with WST and BE. I've been very happy with 1, 5 and 10 drop measurements. I also have check weights to make sure my scale isn't lying to me or drifting.
Sa-tevp- Posts : 961
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
I used 3gr WST with button nosed wadcutters for 38, excellent results.
Ghillieman- Posts : 468
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
Be careful with 3gr load. It may be fine with a button nose seated out, but it's likely +P when a bullet is seated flush. Pressure builds fast with WST and most guides give a max of 2.8.
desben- Posts : 385
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Re: WST powder for 38 target loads ?
+1 I would go with 2.8 , check the primers for pressure signs.desben wrote:Be careful with 3gr load. It may be fine with a button nose seated out, but it's likely +P when a bullet is seated flush. Pressure builds fast with WST and most guides give a max of 2.8.
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