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Post by Mightyheb Tue 28 Mar 2017, 4:47 pm

New RO Dave Salyer Special Img_0213i a man so excited si I figured I would tell my bullseye buddies. I just picked up my RO "Salyer" precision 1911. It's a beauty. New Kart match barrel. Total turnkey job. 3.5# trigger job.  Watch out "X" I'm coming for you. This is my first ever bullseye pistol
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Post by Multiracer Tue 28 Mar 2017, 4:54 pm

Nice.

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Post by mspingeld Tue 28 Mar 2017, 5:34 pm

Congrats! Hope it takes you to high master!

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Post by STEVE SAMELAK Tue 28 Mar 2017, 5:45 pm

Pictures??????  This is not theatre of the mind, I need to see what I crave.  What a Face
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Post by john bickar Tue 28 Mar 2017, 9:58 pm

I have a Salyer gun, it is a 1.2" pistol.

Enjoy it.
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Post by bdas Wed 29 Mar 2017, 1:08 am

I had Salyer accurize my 45 RO with a Kart barrel, and do a trigger job on it, and I'm very happy with it. I shot a 192 (97 & 95) in slow fire (at 25yds) with it in a match this past weekend, so I think it's fair to say that it's quite accurate.

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Post by Bigtrout Wed 29 Mar 2017, 8:02 am

Please post your range test results when they are available.  Thanks.   Nice find.
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Post by desben Wed 29 Mar 2017, 8:04 am

Very nice. I like that he engraves his name on it. If you ever have to sell that pistol (hope not!), this would help recoup the additional investment. You could probably achieve the same by keeping the paperwork from a known gunsmith, but this is a nice extra in my mind.
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Post by bdas Wed 29 Mar 2017, 3:19 pm

desben wrote:Very nice. I like that he engraves his name on it. If you ever have to sell that pistol (hope not!), this would help recoup the additional investment. You could probably achieve the same by keeping the paperwork from a known gunsmith, but this is a nice extra in my mind.

It's funny to see a totally different point of view.  I was furious when I got mine back and saw that HIS name was engraved on the side of MY pistol, especially without asking me if it was ok first.  And I let him know it, too.  If I got my car back from a custom tuner, and they had engraved their name on my fender, I'd demand a new fender.  People in the car world would (and do) get angry if you put a sticker on their window without asking, much less permanently engrave your name in huge letters on the side of the car.  You're working on it, not sponsoring it.  If I like the work you did, I'll put your sticker on my window, and tell people who ask what a great job you did; that's why the sticker in the window means anything to begin with (because it's an earned trophy, not a certificate of participation).

On my pistol, I darkened his engraving to make it less obvious, and live with it, but not happily.  But that's separate from the performance of the pistol, which makes me very happy.  The gun shoots great.

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Post by Olde Pilot Wed 29 Mar 2017, 3:53 pm

bdas:

Did you ask Dave about refinishing the slide? He's one of the nicest, easy-going guys around. Never heard anyone not satisfied with his work and/or his customer service. Do you reject guns with "Clark" or  "Les Baer" on them because it's your gun-not theirs anymore?

Maybe best to ask about a possible resolution before raving (in CAPS!) about his name on your gun. I'd be proud to have a Salyer gun with his name on it.

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Post by Chris Miceli Wed 29 Mar 2017, 4:06 pm

Yeah I don't like seeing Caspian or STI on my 1911 frames......

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Post by james r chapman Wed 29 Mar 2017, 4:37 pm

I also find the name overdone. I'd have it blued in also.But, I've seen his name on all his pistols so it shouldn't be a surprise..
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Post by C.Perkins Wed 29 Mar 2017, 5:53 pm

To the OP;
Good luck with your Salyer pistol.
Mine took me to Master.

As for the remarks of his name on the slide;
Nothing to see here; drive on. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Mightyheb Wed 29 Mar 2017, 6:16 pm

I am going the Charlotte Pistol and Rifle club tomorrow and will post results.
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Post by Wobbley Wed 29 Mar 2017, 7:58 pm

I have a Clark Hardball and they marked it.  A little less conspicuously, I'm ok with it cuz I'm used to it on custom rifles.  The gunsmith usually marks the barrel as well as the caliber it was chambered.
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Post by JIMPGOV Wed 29 Mar 2017, 8:13 pm

CONGRATS ON YOUR PISTOL !

AS FOR THE NAME ON THE GUN, I DO BELIEVE THE ATF NOW REQUIRES THAT CUSTOM WORK BE IDENTIFIED. JP

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Post by orpheoet Wed 29 Mar 2017, 8:58 pm

I have 2 Salyers. Wad and hardball. You will not be disappointed.New RO Dave Salyer Special Fullsi11
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Post by bdas Wed 29 Mar 2017, 11:30 pm

Olde Pilot wrote:bdas:

Did you ask Dave about refinishing the slide? He's one of the nicest, easy-going guys around. Never heard anyone not satisfied with his work and/or his customer service. Do you reject guns with "Clark" or  "Les Baer" on them because it's your gun-not theirs anymore?

Maybe best to ask about a possible resolution before raving (in CAPS!) about his name on your gun. I'd be proud to have a Salyer gun with his name on it.

Regards,
Russell Gill
There's a difference between the manufacturer putting their name on a product they built and a tuner putting their name on a product they worked on.

Yes, I DID talk to him about it.  He offered to try to make some kind of exchange to resolve it, but I declined.  The shipping cost, plus the waiting, plus I had had him mount a rail on it, so there were other costs into the slide, and the slide is serial number matched to the frame... made it not worth it to me.  He was very nice about it (I never implied that he wasn't).  Obviously (based on this and other responses to my post) you guys have come to expect tuners to put their names on your guns, but this industry is the exception, not the rule. 

And, if you actually read what I said, that was my point... that I find it very interesting that you all are ok with this practice, to the point where you actually think it's a benefit.  It was an observation of the difference in point-of-view.  Neither way is "right" or "wrong", just completely different.

And yes, I've also let Dave Salyer know that I'm very happy with the actual work that he did, too.  I'm very happy with the gun, and have told him so, and have recommended him to other shooters that I know.  He does great work as far as I can tell.  (See also: my first post in this thread.)


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Post by togfish Thu 30 Mar 2017, 5:34 am

Good luck with the new gun. Dave has done excellent work on my Colt 70 Series over the years, and I am proud to have his name on it!!
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Post by bdas Thu 30 Mar 2017, 9:37 am

james r chapman wrote:I also find the  name overdone. I'd have it blued in also.But, I've seen his name on all his pistols so it shouldn't be a surprise..

Actually, it was precisely the research that I had done about Salyer's work that led me to believe that this was not a standard procedure, despite having seen it multiple times in pictures.  In the sticky in the Equipment section titled "Accuracy upgrade to the Range Officer 45", DavidR clearly states:

"He then did a full test firing and accuracy session after which he had his Salyer logo engraved on the slide (optional)."

That led me to believe that this was an option that could be requested if desired.  So, yes, I was surprised.

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Post by hengehold Tue 05 Dec 2017, 10:42 pm

I can't find a website for this guy. How can I contact Mr Salyer?

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Post by robert84010 Tue 05 Dec 2017, 10:49 pm

salyer@comporium.net

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Post by Amanda4461 Wed 06 Dec 2017, 12:12 am

bdas-
Count me as one who agrees with you. I ordered a 1911 from Ed Brown a few years ago and found out I could specify a "Naked Slide" option and nothing would be engraved or stamped on the slide. I just prefer a clean look after years of seeing the lawyer junk that Ruger and other adorn their guns with. At least, the SALYER name is well-presented and not a billboard of junk on the slide letting you know it is an "Alpha Elite" or a "KOBRA CARRY." 
I suppose if it proclaimed 1" at 50M I could stand it a little better lol!

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Post by Saladman Wed 06 Dec 2017, 1:30 am

OP, if you don't mind my asking, what did this upgrade cost?

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Post by 1joel1 Fri 08 Dec 2017, 5:22 pm

I also agree with bdas. When I was racing motorcycles, I would send off my suspension for work and rebuilding and after the first time, I asked them not to put decals on my forks and shock. I think it is rude to assume it is okay, but unless they wanted to sponsor me, their name was off the bike. Same for Honda and anyone else, only my sponsors and the race organization had decals on my bike.

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