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Post by lablover Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:02 am

Got myself a ruler 22/45 mark3 and I love it.  Need to get a dot on it so looking for a rail/mount for it or can I just use the one that came with the pistol?  Also..Tigger is not so swell.  I thought of polishing up the parts and see if it makes an improvement...If not, suggestions on aftermarket triggers?  Also, what is the min/max trigger weight for bullseye rimfire?

I'd like to find a cheap and I do mean cheap due to budget Pellet pistol to shoot in the basement..Range time cost money and I have none..LOL
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Post by Oleg G Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:19 am

There is no maximum trigger weight specified by the rules. The minimum for the .22 pistol is 2lb. 
The best bang for the buck IMHO, is the Volquartsen trigger group:

https://volquartsen.com/inventory_configurations/105

This is the kit for MKII pistols but it is best in your case because it includes a bushing, which will eliminate magazine disconnect. This is a DYI kit, which is relatively easy to put it. I did it with no experience whatsoever in working on guns of any kind. Smile 

Included scope mount is absolutely fine - it worked for me great.
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Post by Rob Kovach Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:26 am

Clark triggers over volquartsen. 2lbs is the minimum weight.
Daisy 717 is a super-cheap but actually usable air pistol--almost competitive.
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Post by jmdavis Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:30 am

I would go with the 747 before the 717, but otherwise I agree with Rob. Do
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Post by Rob Kovach Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:35 am

I said 717 because there aren't any 747's on ebay right now.


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Post by jmdavis Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:46 am

Lablover send me a pm.
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Post by lablover Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:51 am

jmdavis wrote:Lablover send me a pm.
PM sent
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Post by Mac2 Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:16 pm

I second use of Volquartsen trigger group:

Put them into Mark IV Ruger Lite pistols and made a world of difference.

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Post by JayhawkNavy02 Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:50 pm

Jon did a Ruger Mk III 22/45 for my son, the trigger is beyond good.

Clark Trigger
VQ Bushing

That's it.  The rest is Jon's magic.  Can't express the thanks enough for a fine shooter for the boys.
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Post by robert84010 Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:08 pm

Rob Kovach wrote:Clark triggers over volquartsen. 2lbs is the minimum weight.
Daisy 717 is a super-cheap but actually usable air pistol--almost competitive.

it's nice to see someone else recommend a Daisy. I've recommended them in the past for non USAS AP match shooters and the reaction from some was like I was taking their birthday away. Not on this website but of all places a highpower rifle website.

I thought it ridiculous to go from a 500g. trigger to a service pistol trigger when chasing distinguished points. The daisy I had came with a heavy, lousy trigger, my service pistol felt like a feather after a few tins in the garage. Made P100 only after shooting a daisy, go figure.

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Post by jmdavis Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:41 pm

The Daisy is just fine for practice. I have also noticed that after spending time with the ball gun, my airgun shows improvement as well.
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Post by Lance Light Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:47 pm

I have two mk3's that I wanted to put Clark triggers in because I didn't like the feal of the vq trigger. Called Clark to order them and they told me they don't sell them anymore. Only way to get one is have them do the trigger.

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Post by Pinetree Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:02 pm

That's not a bad thing. They did an excellent job on my  Mk. Ii.
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Post by lablover Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:28 pm

Thanks for all the info guys.....
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:27 pm

robert84010 wrote:
Rob Kovach wrote:Clark triggers over volquartsen. 2lbs is the minimum weight.
Daisy 717 is a super-cheap but actually usable air pistol--almost competitive.

it's nice to see someone else recommend a Daisy. I've recommended them in the past for non USAS AP match shooters and the reaction from some was like I was taking their birthday away. Not on this website but of all places a highpower rifle website.

I thought it ridiculous to go from a 500g. trigger to a service pistol trigger when chasing distinguished points. The daisy I had came with a heavy, lousy trigger, my service pistol felt like a feather after a few tins in the garage. Made P100 only after shooting a daisy, go figure.

My Daisy 717 is awful too.   Love it.
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Post by Dr.Don Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:42 pm

I have an old 777. Had it since the 80's. Target sights, adjustable trigger, target grips with a shelf, even rear sight width is adjustable. Don't remember the price but it was pretty cheap for what you got.
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Post by Rob Kovach Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:14 am

I think that new 717s and 747s can be had at www.pyramidair.com
For the $170 new, it really isn't a waste of money. It's a great training tool.
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Post by robert84010 Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:33 am

They are like a moped. they get you from A to B but don't get seen by your friends using one.

They really do work well for practice in the garage. I will always own one to get people started. I bought a new one years ago from Gil Hebard, super cheap back then. I bought a used one recently ($70) and the value makes it even better.

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Post by Keithcrc Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:03 pm

Can't get 717s anymore except used. Just bought one myself. Google Don Nygord Daisy 717 modification. It doesn't look super hard to do and brings the trigger down to 500 grams! He used one to win the California State Championship.
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:07 pm

lablover wrote:Got myself a ruler 22/45 mark3 and I love it.  Need to get a dot on it so looking for a rail/mount for it or can I just use the one that came with the pistol?  Also..Tigger is not so swell.  I thought of polishing up the parts and see if it makes an improvement...If not, suggestions on aftermarket triggers?  Also, what is the min/max trigger weight for bullseye rimfire?

I'd like to find a cheap and I do mean cheap due to budget Pellet pistol to shoot in the basement..Range time cost money and I have none..LOL

This one is what I use for at home practice. I include all the information that was listed. I swear I am not a shill.:-)

Benjamin Trail NP Break Barrel Air Pistol (.177)

  • Shoots up to 625 FPS, Nitro Piston® technology

  • Rifled steel barrel and tactical synthetic frame

  • Cocking assist aid included

  • Ideal for target shooting and pest control

  • Benjamin Trail NP air pistol

  • Nitro Piston

  • Breakbarrel

  • Single-shot

  • 19.5" long with muzzlebrake; 16" long without muzzlebrake

  • 25 lbs. cocking effort

  • 7-lb. trigger-pull

  • Fixed fiber optic front sight

  • Fully adjustable fiber optic rear sight

  • Textured, ambidextrous grip

  • 11mm optics dovetail

  • Manual safety

  • Includes cocking aid
    Here are the benefits of the Nitro Piston:

    • Smoother cocking

    • Smoother shooting

    • No spring torque

    • No spring fatigue, even if you leave it cocked for hours

    • Functions perfectly in cold weather

    • Lasts longer than a metal spring




$72.95  
List Price $90.00 Save $17.05 (18%)
https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Trail_NP_Air_Pistol/2723

I don't recommend the Crosman P1377 American Classic Multi Pump. You work a bolt action to insert the pellet. The bolt is soft metal. After working it back and forth a few hundred times, the bolt broke off. Not even worth fixing.


I use a Tasco .22 Rimfire 1x30mm 5 MOA Red Dot Riflescope I bought for around $50. It fits the Benjamin Trail's dovetail rail.


Again -- I am not shilling for anyone.

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Post by Rob Kovach Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:50 pm

I haven't been recommending the Benjamin because while the 717 is actually useable for 10m competition, the 7lb trigger of the benjamin and the break action seems troublesome for accuracy. I would like to see someone score over 85% with a Benjamin before I would recommend one. I think I could break 90% with the daisy.
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Post by SMBeyer Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:57 pm

Since this was originally about Ruger .22 triggers a friend put in a Majestic kit on a Ruger Mk3.  Very nice!  Better than the Volquartsen I put in my daughters Ruger.
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