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Post by Hardballer on Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:48 pm

I've been looking through the NRA Rulebook and Section 4 seems to have all the info you could need except the distance from the center of the bull to the ground.  I hope that I have not overlooked it.  Will someone please tell me the correct measurement?


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Re: Distance From Center Of Bullseye To The Ground

Post by LenV on Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:18 pm

After some discussion I think the forum agreed on 55"

https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t5586-target-height?highlight=target+height

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Re: Distance From Center Of Bullseye To The Ground

Post by Hardballer on Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:22 pm

55" - Perfect, thanks Len and thanks for the welcome.
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Re: Distance From Center Of Bullseye To The Ground

Post by BE Mike on Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:30 am

The measurement is taken at the firing point, so if your range has a slope...
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Post by Hardballer on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:13 am

If there is a slope, would it then be better to use something like a "Laser Level" measured 55" up from the firing line to the center of the target?  I'm not trying to split hairs, just trying to get this right.
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Post by LenV on Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:38 pm

It can't make that much difference if it is just for practice. I routinely staple 4 repair centers to the target at the same time. That means I have 4 targets at the wrong height. Adjust your stance a tiny bit and shoot. Works great for practice.

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Post by BE Mike on Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:48 am

Hardballer wrote:If there is a slope, would it then be better to use something like a "Laser Level" measured 55" up from the firing line to the center of the target?  I'm not trying to split hairs, just trying to get this right.
That sounds like a great way to do it. There is also some leeway (+ or- a certain number of inches) but I cannot recall exactly how much. I was in from the beginning of construction of an indoor bullseye pistol range for our club, but that was a long, long time ago and I long ago relinquished the NRA Range Manual to the club.
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Bench Height?

Post by brassmaster on Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:35 am

LenV wrote:After some discussion I think the forum agreed on 55"

https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t5586-target-height?highlight=target+height

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O.k. Len, now that the target height has been addressed, how about bench height (top of bench to ground) at the firing line? Is this addressed by NRA or CMP and if it is, where could one find that referenced?

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Post by LenV on Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:27 pm

I guarantee that there is no standardized bench height. At least in my shooting career I have never found two ranges that agreed on the same height. Some guide lines I would use if building one for myself.

1. Should be low enough that you can go to the international ready position without hitting the bench.

2. Should be tall enough that you don't have to bend over to look thru scope.

3. Should be low enough you can see thru scope without getting on a ladder.

4. Should be wide enough for pistol box, towel/pad, water bottle, thermos, brass catcher and ammo.
    (ok, #4 is just wishful thinking)
5. I like a 30" bench for my 5'9"
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Re: Distance From Center Of Bullseye To The Ground

Post by jwax on Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:37 am

LenV- 
Hope you're not drinking at the firing position.
Drinking/eating at the firing position is a no-no at most ranges around here.

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Post by Blsi2600 on Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:07 am

Only in NY.

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Re: Distance From Center Of Bullseye To The Ground

Post by LenV on Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:25 pm

Match director furnishes cookies. I bring coffee and doughnuts to share. My scorer gets first pick. Smile
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Post by Boris_La on Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:59 pm

LenV wrote:Match director furnishes cookies. I bring coffee and doughnuts to share. My scorer gets first pick. Smile
Sh-h-h!
Don't let the secret of higher scores out.

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Re: Distance From Center Of Bullseye To The Ground

Post by mikemyers on Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:01 pm

A somewhat related question...

From NRA rules: "... skills required to shoot one-handed at 5.5-inch (14 cm) and 8-inch (20 cm) bullseye targets at 25 and 50 yards (23 and 46 m)...


Which NRA targets are used at each distance?  I found two NRA 8" targets.  My club uses the B-8 target.   It's probably obvious, but I wasn't able to find the specific targets used for each distance.
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Post by Wobbley on Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:06 am

The 50 yard target is the NRA B-6 target (8 inch black) and the 25 yard target is the NRA B-6 target (5.5 inch black),
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Post by mikemyers on Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:35 am

Thanks!!!

The targets I was shooting at were NRA B-8.  I should start using the proper targets when I get home.
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Post by JD Mahan on Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:39 am

Wobbley wrote:The 50 yard target is the NRA B-6 target (8 inch black) and the 25 yard target is the NRA B-6 target (5.5 inch black),

Correction:

50 yd target is NRA B 6.

25 yd target is NRA B 8

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Post by mikemyers on Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:48 am

Hmm, now I know why I couldn't find a comparison on the internet.  Trying to find images for each, with dimensions.  I found the page in the NRA rulebook, but I'd like to compare them side by side on my computer.
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Post by mikemyers on Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:54 am

Added later - found this:

http://www.indecorous.com/bullseye/rings.html

Not what I expected to see, if this page is correct.
Still trying to figure out how his page "works".
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Re: Distance From Center Of Bullseye To The Ground

Post by Ed Hall on Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:22 am

mikemyers wrote:...  Trying to find images for each, with dimensions...
Have you tried the taget companies?:

Competition Targets- Pistol, The National Target Company, Inc

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Post by mikemyers on Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:38 am

Ed, yes, and thank you, but this is where I used to go to long ago - I forgot the name, and had to track it down:

http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/bullseyepistoltargets.pdf

I like printing my own targets for practice.  When I posted the question, I was hoping to find two images I could view side by side, and compare.  Since the distance was double, I was wondering how close to "double" the size of the 50 yard target was.  I've never shot at a 50 yard target yet.  Just trying to get a feel for what it will be like.  I can't do much about anything until January, when I get home.  Again, thanks!!
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Re: Distance From Center Of Bullseye To The Ground

Post by Wobbley on Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:57 am

Print them on these.  https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-5045/Laser-Labels/Laser-Labels-White-8-1-2-x-11  

Staples not required.  Good enough for practice.
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Post by Olde Pilot on Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:24 pm

Good price on official targets is pistoleer.com.

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Post by Olde Pilot on Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:33 pm

With regard to target height above ground: Target height should be measured by setting up a transit at about 55in above the firing line and set the target center at whatever height is level to that at both 25 and 50 yards. For example, at Gateway Jacksonville, the targets at 50 yards are only about 3 feet above ground due to up-sloping land.

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Post by Toz35m on Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:13 pm

Wobbley wrote:Print them on these.  https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-5045/Laser-Labels/Laser-Labels-White-8-1-2-x-11  

Staples not required.  Good enough for practice.

seems like an expensive option.  Paying $30 for a box of 100.  If you buy 5 you get them at $21/100. Then you have to pay for the ink to print on them.  If you buy some B-8 repair centers from American target you pay $8.30/100 if you buy 500. Or $7.40/100 if you get a 1000.

I buy from Kruger and pay $7.8/100 buying a pack of 250 which lasts me a while.  These are high quality targets. Lucky for me they are local so I can pick them up when I order.
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