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Post by 10sandxs on 12/31/2017, 3:27 pm

As I look at what folks are doing to get to lower recoil, I see a lot of 9mm loads with people going to 147 gr bullets.  there are a number of mold makers producing 150-160 gr SWC bullets for the 45.  has anyone tried them?  I'm not looking at the long line, but indoors and shortline might be a way to go if they are decently accurate.

Any info and insight would be appreciated.

thanks much and happy new year

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Post by ric1911a1 on 12/31/2017, 4:48 pm

I and several friends have been using Dardas 160 grain bullets for a while now. 50', 25 yards, and occasionally for 50 yards.

I like 4.4 of WST with them.
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Post by farmboy on 12/31/2017, 7:12 pm

Dardas 160 is a very accurate bullet in my guns including 50yds . 4.1 WST. 

The felt recoil is slightly snappier than the 185’s & 200 Swaged but I like the feel. Some don’t.
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Post by orpheoet on 12/31/2017, 7:29 pm

I'm a fan of the 160gr Dardas too. I use 4.2gr WST. I've never tried the 150gr but I'd be interested in others expeience as well.
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Post by Skid on 1/1/2018, 5:42 pm

The Dardas 160 is pretty popular around here for indoor and the short line. The people that I know that are using it they are shooting slide mounted dots and the load is 4.3grs WST I hope this helps.

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Post by james r chapman on 1/1/2018, 6:12 pm

Thanks Keith, that's exactly what I'm playing with in my Clark. 4.3 WST and the Dardas 160
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Post by Skid on 1/1/2018, 6:22 pm

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Post by 10sandxs on 1/28/2018, 1:57 am

So I took a chacne on a 167 gr mold for NOE, image
 Attached. This bullet shoots very well out of my wad gun. So I'm now looking to get a few more of these molds.
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Post by JKR on 1/29/2018, 10:17 am

Rob,

I'm assuming you have to increase the powder charge a bit to get this little bullet to cycle the pistol. Is there a noticeable amount of recoil reduction over a light 200 grain load? I've tried 185's but really couldn't tell much difference. 

The Springfield you re barreled for me shoots great with 3.5 BE/200 SWC both long and short line.

Jim

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Post by Chris Miceli on 1/29/2018, 10:34 am

JKR wrote:Rob,

I'm assuming you have to increase the powder charge a bit to get this little bullet to cycle the pistol. Is there a noticeable amount of recoil reduction over a light 200 grain load? I've tried 185's but really couldn't tell much difference. 

The Springfield you re barreled for me shoots great with 3.5 BE/200 SWC both long and short line.

Jim
tested some 160s they were moving pretty fast around the 800fps range. Gots a little snap but not a big recoil push.
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Post by SMBeyer on 1/29/2018, 10:35 am

10sandxs wrote:So I took a chacne on a 167 gr mold for NOE, image
 Attached. This bullet shoots very well out of my wad gun. So I'm now looking to get a few more of these molds.
I have a 5 cavity(I think) I'd sell if interested

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Post by 10sandxs on 1/29/2018, 1:00 pm

JKR wrote:Rob,

I'm assuming you have to increase the powder charge a bit to get this little bullet to cycle the pistol. Is there a noticeable amount of recoil reduction over a light 200 grain load? I've tried 185's but really couldn't tell much difference. 

The Springfield you re barreled for me shoots great with 3.5 BE/200 SWC both long and short line.

Jim
 Hi Jim, Glad to hear the gun is shooting well.  I actually just switched out projectiles with no load development.  I'm shooting 3.0 gr Vectan BA10 ( a decade ago, It was cheap and I was poor and bought too much).  My gun cycles well with a 14 lb spring and a slide mounted holosun dot.  there were a few times the last round would only dribble out of the ejection port, so I may go to a 13 or 12 lb spring,  I ransom rested them over them weekend, just to see if they had accuracy potential, and they shot nearly as well as the 185 gr Zero's I use for the long line.  there were a two fliers, but the casting session was not well controlled, and I suspect there is significant room for improvement in this area.

There is a SIGNIFICANT difference in recoil, softer and less of it, relative to my 190 gr H&G130's  I went to cast some this weekend, but some of my "new to me" type metal had zinc in it... argh...

rob

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Post by 10sandxs on 1/29/2018, 1:01 pm

SMBeyer wrote:
10sandxs wrote:So I took a chacne on a 167 gr mold for NOE, image
 Attached. This bullet shoots very well out of my wad gun. So I'm now looking to get a few more of these molds.
I have a 5 cavity(I think) I'd sell if interested

Scott
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