160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
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Chris Miceli
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james r chapman
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160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
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Colt Government model, tapered rib, Ultradot 30mm.
19lb mainspring,10 lb recoil spring, 6 lb magazine spring, standard firing pin spring.
I have been trying to work a decent load up for these new light bullets, no ransom testing just off my inexperienced hand and paying attention to the slide cycle.
Accuracy seems off and ejection seems weak with 4.1 WST, accuracy gets better as you go up but seems real good and cycle is good at a high of 4.8 WST.
tested 4.1 to 4.8 30 rounds each.
The recoil did not seem to increase as the powder volume went up ?
Anyone else fooled with these little 160 G button type SWC ? 4,8G seems a bit high ?
Colt Government model, tapered rib, Ultradot 30mm.
19lb mainspring,10 lb recoil spring, 6 lb magazine spring, standard firing pin spring.
I have been trying to work a decent load up for these new light bullets, no ransom testing just off my inexperienced hand and paying attention to the slide cycle.
Accuracy seems off and ejection seems weak with 4.1 WST, accuracy gets better as you go up but seems real good and cycle is good at a high of 4.8 WST.
tested 4.1 to 4.8 30 rounds each.
The recoil did not seem to increase as the powder volume went up ?
Anyone else fooled with these little 160 G button type SWC ? 4,8G seems a bit high ?
Multiracer- Posts : 996
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Yep.Multiracer wrote:james r chapman wrote:Ok. 160 DARDAS cast swc,
Avg 796 fps with 4.4 wst, .925 shoulder to base dimensions . probably a .463-.465 crimp
.Magnus #811 3.7 Bullseye .920 s.t.b dimensions same crimp, avg fps.
Same POI at 25 yards.
James, is that crimp dimension correct ?
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
I looked at pet loads and saw Mc Dan had said 4.4 of BE. IS 4.3 the better? Loading up some todayjames r chapman wrote:I also noticed Motorcycle Dan's 160 SWC load of 4.3 Bullseye.
at some point I've got to clear my head, start using
what the Masters are finding success with....
lablover- Posts : 1275
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
4.4BE is the most I would use
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Chris Miceli- Posts : 2715
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
4.3-4.4, somewhere in there my disc measure drops. Depends on temperature, humidity, etc
We're not shooting rifle distances..
We're not shooting rifle distances..
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Thanks gents
lablover- Posts : 1275
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
For the long line regardless of powder used a good starting place with the 160gr S242 is whatever charge one would use with a 185 JHP like the Nosler or Zero . Like 4.5 BE , 4.8 WST , 4.3 N-310 etc. Short line 4.2 - 4.3grs of BE or WST will work . As always depend on way gun is setup & what it likes , groups will tell .
boatbum101- Posts : 46
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Tried 4.3 be with the 160s today. Held the 10 ring at 50 yards. I wonder if I spiced the up a bit
lablover- Posts : 1275
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
4.0 BE was nice at 753 fps
No one is talking about primers with WST, l understand they are critical.
I got big velo spreads, puffers and bangers with Federal and 4.5 wst
No one is talking about primers with WST, l understand they are critical.
I got big velo spreads, puffers and bangers with Federal and 4.5 wst
Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
I also tried wst and using fed primers, groups nowhere near as good as than with the BEbruce martindale wrote:4.0 BE was nice at 753 fps
No one is talking about primers with WST, l understand they are critical.
I got big velo spreads, puffers and bangers with Federal and 4.5 wst
lablover- Posts : 1275
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
I run Winchester primers with WST .. no issues ever
jglenn21- Posts : 2619
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Greetings,
Long ago, I tried WST with the H&G #S242 bullet (160 grain) and had velocity spreads over 100 FPS.
I went back to Bullseye powder.
On the plus side, WST worked well with both the H&G 68 (200 grain) and H&G 78 (215 grain) bullet. Groups were well inside the ten-ring at 50 yards with my 625-4 revolver.
Ooops, could not find the H&G 68 with WST targets...
It seemed as if WST favored a heavy bullet?
Cheers,
Dave
12 shot groups fired via the Random rest.
Long ago, I tried WST with the H&G #S242 bullet (160 grain) and had velocity spreads over 100 FPS.
I went back to Bullseye powder.
On the plus side, WST worked well with both the H&G 68 (200 grain) and H&G 78 (215 grain) bullet. Groups were well inside the ten-ring at 50 yards with my 625-4 revolver.
Ooops, could not find the H&G 68 with WST targets...
It seemed as if WST favored a heavy bullet?
Cheers,
Dave
12 shot groups fired via the Random rest.
fc60- Posts : 1454
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Think gave me last round not ejecting. 4.4 seems pretty accurate. 4.3was as well
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