Pet Loads of Top Shooters & Loads from the past.

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Pet Loads of Top Shooters & Loads from the past.

Post by DavidR on Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:03 pm

This list of accurate Bullseye loads was compiled from some of the most accomplished shooters in our sport. If you are a Master or High Master and would like to share, please send your info to me in a PM, listing Load, bullet type, powder and primer, and any other info and i will add you in. This list is compiled for reference use only, use this data at your own risk: Load data is not in any order, none is considered better than the next



Chuck Abston, Master class
Distinguished #1254
Presidents 100 4x NRA 2600 club

My load is 4.0 grains of Bullseye with a 200 grain hard cast
bullet, with Starline brass and winchester primers. The crimp shoud be
.470-.472.

Jack H. Master & Dist.
45 Wadgun
3.8-4.0 BE, either 200 or 185 LSWC, WLP
4.5 N310, 185 Nosler, WLP, Starline
Hardball
4.8 Titegroup, WLP, Sierra
4.9-5.2 N320 works great too.  
45 Revolver (S&W 1955 Model)
4.8 BE, 200 JSWC (Hornady), WLP, rimmed cases

crimp medium to heavy, even on Jackets.
The Nosler load was Ransomed by Roddy in my HB gun 1 1/16".  9 of the 10 were 1"


Rick Briggs Master since 2005
3.8 grains of Clay's under a Zero 185 grain LSWC HP, shoulder to rim dimension .926", Dillon die crimped to .469", primer WLP.
Brass is Federal and Starline.
Works well in both of my Kart barreled Masaki and Rock River Arms wadcutters.



Dan Allen Master Outdoors - High Master Indoors
185 grain SWC from either Master Cast of PA or Missouri Bullet Co - they both shoot the same for me.
4.0 grains of Bullseye in mixed cases with Winchester primers.

Steve Turner Master,  Accuracy also  tested on Ransome Rest

4.1 - 4.2gr WST
185 or 200gr lead bullets
Shoulder ~1/16" above mouth (OAL 1.22" for 185 HPSWC)
crimp & brass are not critical
I use WIN & FED primers interchangeably
I use Wolf primers indoors but have not tested at 50 yards
I use cast 200 SWC, swaged 185 & 200 SWC and swaged 185 HPSWC with the same load
3.8gr WST
185 or 200gr lead bullets
Shoulder ~1/16" above mouth (OAL 1.22" for 185 HPSWC)
Nice short line load, only a little less accurate than 4.1gr above
4.4gr N310
Nosler or Zero 185 JHP
OAL 1.25"
consistent brass
WIN or FED primers both work
medium crimp (~0.468") but I've not tested other crimps.
4.4gr N310
S and S 160gr cast LSWC
Shoulder ~1/16" above mouth (OAL 1.55")
crimp, primer and brass not critical.
This is a great short line load.
38 SPL
2.7gr WST or 2.8gr BE
Star 148gr HBWC
Just enough roll crimp to hold bullet
I've not tested primers or brass variations

James R. Lenardson- High Master
I shoot 4.5 grains of BE with 185JHP from Zero.  Shoots just splendid

Dave Wemple Master, Distinguished, + Distinguish Revolver

I use 4.1 of bullseye with Mastercast 185 gr lead at 25 yds
and 4.5 of bullseye with Nosler or Zero JHP's at 50 yds.

From Motorcycle_Dan Pauley,
 Master
160gr SWC ,Sorted by weight.  I shoot in batches so all are within 1gr.
159.0 to 159.9 or 160.0 to 160.9 etc
All shoot well but a 158gr shoots to a different point of aim than the
160.
4.4gr of Bullseye powder.  Measured by volume with Lee disc measure.
(0.53cc I think) Lee's chart is light on the conservative side.
Winchester brass that has been pushed all way through the carbide ring
of a Lee Factory Crimp (don't think it matters but I sort by head stamp)
Winchester primer (don't think it matters so long as all are the same)
Seat bullets from the shoulder rather than the nose. About 0.030 above
case mouth.
Lee Factory crimp to 0.469~.470
Go poke holes in the X.  This load shot to a 2"x2.5" group at 50yd from
sand bags with my Springfield armory pistol.

And a note on the concept of "Pet Load." While I don't believe my pet
load could be bested by any other.  I'm not saying it would be the best
for your pistol in your hand.  Each are different.  It does work well
for me with my equipment and my process.

Terry Labbe High Master, Sprinfield Pistol Team
4.3 Tightgroup with a Magnus 802 200 gr. LSWC for 50 yards
4.0 Tightgroup with a Magnus 801 185 gr. LSWC for 25 yards


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Re: Pet Loads of Top Shooters & Loads from the past.

Post by DavidR on Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:05 pm

From. Ed Masaki;
FOR
ME I LIKE THE RESULTS OF CLAYS 3.8 TO 4.2 FOR 50YDS WITH GOOD 200GR
FLAT BASE BULLETS. AND I LIKE THE RECOIL FEEL OF THE B.E. POWDER FOR
25YDS. FROM 3.6 TO 4GRS. THESE ARE ONLY MY OPINION. AND I AM
CALLED CRAZY. I AGREE. ED M.

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Re: Pet Loads of Top Shooters & Loads from the past.

Post by DavidR on Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:18 pm

Pet Loads from the Past, for Iron sights or Frame mount 45
 by DavidR on Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:57 am
This Link is from many old masters, most if not all of these were for iron sighted guns but would also work for guns with frame mounted dots, use at on risk, for reference only.


http://www.hostingfms.com/~cholt/Bullseye-LLoadsFromThePast.html

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Re: Pet Loads of Top Shooters & Loads from the past.

Post by DavidR on Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:33 pm

From Motorcycle_dan 10-08-2014 update
My source of great quality 160gr SWC dried up so back to load development.
 
On the long line.
Zero 185 JHP
Starline brass
4.5~4.7 bullseye
Seat with RN seater so about 0.070 of straight wall is exposed. OAL will vary slightly.
LFC to 0.469~.470

Short line
Zero 185 SWC HP
Light tumble coating of Lee Liquid Alox.  Set out on a cookie sheet to dry for a couple days.
Polished brass sorted by headstamp pushed through a LFC carbide ring (lee bulge buster)
4.2~4.4 bullseye
Seat from the shoulder so that about 0.040 of shoulder is exposed
Crimp separately with LFC to 0.469~0.470

Once loaded I put about 200 loaded rounds in a plastic 3lb coffee can.
Give it a liberal coating of WD-40 and roll them around so all are coated evenly and any shaved lead is freed up.
Pour out into the center of an old T-shirt or towel. 
Pick up the corners and roll them like polishing a bowling ball to remove excess and any lube.
Put into boxes and let stand open for a day or two.
The WD dries to a hard coating.

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Re: Pet Loads of Top Shooters & Loads from the past.

Post by DavidR on Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:45 pm

New post and great load from a High Master!

Nosler 185, 4.8 to 5.0 WST, WLP primer, 1.24 OAL, I always use once fired Federal brass.  I own 4 wad guns and 1.625 is the largest 10 shot group and 1.1 is the smallest out of my Ransom rest at 50 yds. One of my wad guns prefers 4.8 the other 3 prefer 5.0 of the WST. I have tried many powders and always go back to WST.
Tom Ginovsky
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Re: Pet Loads of Top Shooters & Loads from the past.

Post by DavidR on Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:38 pm

I would like to add to this sticky topic on great loads, would like to add more load info from Any High Masters willing to share, thanks
Please send it to me in a PM and I can add it in order with the others.

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Post by DavidR on Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:41 pm

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