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Post by jmdavis Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:17 pm

Tonight I noticed that by the end of sustained fire strings, I was shooting with a noticeable cant to the gun. The shooting was good and x counts were ok. But it was entirely subconscious. My thought is to not worry about it and see if it continues. 

Thoughts?
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Post by Jack H Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:59 pm

You a righty?  And when you don't cant, your sights go left?

I have a theory. 

Stand taller.  Head higher.  Swing your arm more to the front.  Or..

Thrust your thumb toward the target along side the gun.  This puts some more grip pressure on the backstrap and might swing the sight a bit left.  Helps firm the wrist too.

Theory, I said.....
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Post by jmdavis Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:09 pm

I am right handed. My grip is pretty firm. I am using a dot. 

I am also switching from Ortho grips on Euro guns to a conversion with slabs. Match tonight was an 855-22. Which is my best in a very long  time and my best with slabs ever.  Not a great  x-count. But the cant just seemed natural during the strings.

More info, I was using my 50ft zero tonight, so things were a little high at 25 yards.
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Post by Jack H Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:36 pm

I used to shoot my High Standards (Military 106-107) forcing the gun upright by starting with a full, hard arm roll to the outside.  Then return to upright.  As matches progressed I kept seeing the sights cant to the left.  I'd fight them back, and shots went wild.  So I accepted the cant.  and shots were better.  It took years to understand how some of the crazy ideas above worked.  And they do help.  You just got to try them.  Break habits.  Make new ones. 

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Post by Wobbley Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:49 am

As Jack alluded, a cant isn’t necessarily problematic.  So long as it’s consistent it will be workable.  The reason the cant is present is your muscles when relaxed have a natural cant.  If you fight it, your body will start to tremor and scores will plummet.
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Post by Slartybartfast Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:07 am

Maybe it's best to accept your natural cant and cant your sights to match...  Shocked

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Post by SMBeyer Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:21 pm

JMDavis ignore it!  If that's where you comfortably hold the gun go with it.  I'm a lefty but have a pretty pronounced cant.

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Post by PMcfall Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:49 pm

I don't have a cant but if canting would make me shoot as well as you do Scott, I would cant the hell out of it.
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Post by STEVE SAMELAK Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:23 pm

If your natural hold cants the gun there's nothing from stopping you from rotating the scope back to plumb in the rings.  The gun may look crooked but the scope adjustments would be more true to the world.
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