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Post by Multiracer on 4/1/2018, 7:48 am

Is the ejection port allowed to be lowered, flared, modified ?

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Post by cdrt on 4/1/2018, 8:08 am

I was going to say "yes" but in the current rule book, it does not specifically mention modifying the ejection port like it did in the older rule books before they started adding all the different pistols.  Guess it's a question for the CMP people in charge of the pistol program.  I don't think anyone would call you on it at a match, but they did leave it out.  I kind of miss the old table they had with what was legal or not.
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Post by dronning on 4/1/2018, 9:08 am

Lowering the ejection port improves functionality and under Under 4.2.2 Approved Service Pistol Modifications 
m) Internal modifications to improve functioning and accuracy (e.g., a special match barrel may be fitted). Modifications may not interfere with the proper functioning or safety devices of the firearm.


My take is since all the changes and all the guns that are now qualified as long as you are shooting iron sights and the grips are non metallic and the same on both sides any mods you make can't interfere with any safety device or extend the sight radius then you are pretty much good to go.
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Post by Multiracer on 4/1/2018, 9:30 am

So, I will try the CMP peeps.

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Post by cdrt on 4/1/2018, 10:14 am

dronning wrote:Lowering the ejection port improves functionality and under Under 4.2.2 Approved Service Pistol Modifications 
m) Internal modifications to improve functioning and accuracy (e.g., a special match barrel may be fitted). Modifications may not interfere with the proper functioning or safety devices of the firearm.

My take is since all the changes and all the guns that are now qualified as long as you are shooting iron sights and the grips are non metallic and the same on both sides any mods you make can't interfere with any safety device or extend the sight radius then you are pretty much good to go.
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Lowering the ejection port is an external mod, not internal.  I saw m) as well, but it does not address the question.  That's why I mentioned the old table/chart that was in earlier rule books.  Yes, it is probably okay, but it is not covered in the rules anymore.
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Post by Jack H on 4/1/2018, 10:16 am

Multiracer wrote:Is the ejection port allowed to be lowered, flared, modified ?

My ball gun is already lowered, years ago.  I don't think it would be DQ'd.
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Post by jglenn21 on 4/1/2018, 2:29 pm

Most slides come that way from the factory now.. Many are not as radical as what some BE wad guns are cut but still I don't find it needed on most Caspian slides. .. Unless the slide is cut like a true old Military slide, then you probably don't need it cut any more with an open sight pistol any way.  YMMV
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Post by cdrt on 4/1/2018, 4:58 pm

Jack H wrote:
Multiracer wrote:Is the ejection port allowed to be lowered, flared, modified ?

My ball gun is already lowered, years ago.  I don't think it would be DQ'd.

Correct.  I would not DQ anyone for a modified ejection port, simply because, as stated above, most 1911's come that way.  The Rule Book just needs a clarification of something that was legal and still should be.  I think they overreached when they added all those pistols and they decided the table/chart was obsolete.
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Post by Multiracer on 4/1/2018, 6:31 pm

Thanks guys.

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Post by BE Mike on 4/2/2018, 7:48 am

I would be very surprised if an old 1911 ball gun with all the old approved mods., was disallowed by any referee. Although as time passes, all the old ways are not known by younger folks. How odd it would be to see someone shooting one of those old pistols with factory 230 gr. ball ammo!
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