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Post by Sheriff1962 9/30/2018, 11:26 am

Your 1911 is adjusted for center hold at 25 yards with Federal Match 185swc. If You were to move to 50 yards and keep using center hold , how many clicks up do You normally need with Bomar style sights?  How many clicks would You do if You decided to shoot six oclock at 50?

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Post by robert84010 9/30/2018, 1:37 pm

enough to put the shots in the middle. Smile Smile

You need to realize that everyone adjusts a little differently. many don't click at all. If I told you to put 9 clicks on would you go to a match and consider that right? You need to test for your eyes, hold, ammo, lighting condition and see what it takes. That is the good news, you have a reason to go to the range AND SHOOT! 

Personally, my rear sight is adjusted to have shots in the center at 25 yards. I don't adjust for 50. If that has me 3/8" low at 50 so be it. I would rather not add one more thing to my routine, that has very little effect, and would rather focus on getting set for the next stage. I rarely have a shot 3/8" low that would effect my score, I can guarantee I have just as many 3/8" high. Four clicks is not the difference between being a marksman or a master. If I start to repeatedly group ALL shots in the 9 ring at 50 I might reconsider.

Last week in practice I shot a 193, basically a 96 and and 97, on the 25 yard slowfire target, all within the 9 ring. Yesterdays 22 EIC match I had a high 8 and a low 8. So how would the four clicks have mattered?  But I still won the leg medal.

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Post by Sheriff1962 9/30/2018, 2:14 pm

robert84010 wrote:enough to put the shots in the middle. Smile Smile

You need to realize that everyone adjusts a little differently. many don't click at all.

You need to test for your eyes, hold, ammo, lighting condition and see what it takes. That is the good news, you have a reason to go to the range AND SHOOT! 

Personally, my rear sight is adjusted to have shots in the center at 25 yards. I don't adjust for 50. If that has me 3/8" low at 50 so be it. I would rather not adjust between lines. I rarely have a shot 3/8" low that would effect my score. Four clicks is not the difference between being a marksman or a master. If I start to repeatedly group ALL shots in the 9 ring at 50 I might reconsider.

Last week in practice I shot a 193, basically a 96 and and 97, on the 25 yard slowfire target, all within the 9 ring. Yesterdays 22 EIC match I had a high 8 and a low 8. So how would the four clicks have mattered?  But I still won the leg medal.
Ok.  I see.  I now shoot center both 25 and 50.  My gun is set up for center hold at 25 with 185 SWC Federal.   When I shoot center hold at 50, shots are low   in the black , but low .  I come up 3-4 clicks to bring everything up.  I am curious , if You dont adjust sights , do You aim higher ?

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Post by robert84010 9/30/2018, 2:27 pm

Absolutely not, learning to hold two different holds would be a wasted effort. I'm saying I don't care about the rare low shot just off the ring. I also have high shots so maybe the four clicks would have those out the top? I'm sighted in to clean a 25 yard target, which I do. I had TF 99-6x yesterday in the NRA match. The one nine-high-because my sight alignment was high.
If I shot one hole groups that were 3/8" low I would adjust the sight. I don't, my errors are random and the four clicks would not statistically show a marked improvement in score.

BTW, with a dot I do adjust 4 clicks but that is because my calls are better and generally my group is tighter and therefore the clicks do make a difference. I have been replying to your question based on iron sights.

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Post by Sheriff1962 9/30/2018, 2:48 pm

Ok  So zero at 25 and hold same 50.  I will try .

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Post by Chris Miceli 9/30/2018, 3:59 pm

You have sights and a screw driver, they were put there to be adjusted. Not that complicated

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