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Post by corsara Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:23 pm

Hello - often I would experience a failure to fire with the S&W Victory, only to find out the safety was flicked up [turned on] accidentally.  So I just opened it up and removed it [the safety].  Gun seems to function check fine without it.  Just wondering if anyone has tried this before, and if there's something I should know before taking it to the range.  Btw, I only use this gun for bullseye, it's not a carry piece or anything like that (that's not even allowed in Canada, but thought I should mention).

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Post by LenV Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:26 pm

Bad news. It is not legal for Bullseye with the safety removed.
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Post by corsara Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:31 pm

LenV wrote:Bad news. It is not legal for Bullseye with the safety removed.

I understand.  However, I'm not participating in any formal competitions yet (just club-organized evenings), so the legality aspect is not an issue at the moment.

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Post by James Hensler Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:07 pm

I PM’d you the fix
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Post by Multiracer Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:08 pm

James Hensler wrote:I PM’d you the fix
Why not let all the viewers and Victory owners on this forum know the "fix " ?

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Post by -TT- Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:24 pm

Super glue? Readily reversible when/if needed.

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Post by James Hensler Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:59 pm

Yes the answer is gorilla superglue. One drop. If an official ask you to put the safety on because someone bitched about it a flat head screw driver will break it free.
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Post by corsara Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:37 pm

I'm the OP.  So, here's everything I've done about the safety of SW22 so far:

1) Standard grips - a drop of glue right under the lever.  That's how I was using it for a while, and it worked just fine for a long time.  

2) Volquartsen wood grips - bought these, however couldn't glue the safety lever to it anymore because they have a cutout right there.  The only place to glue it would've been to the frame, which I didn't want to do (hence starting this thread).

3) Removed the safety completely - gun continued to function just fine.  However, I don't feel good about that solution, there's side-to-side play in the hammer.  Again - it worked fine for the short run I used it, but was not something I felt comfortable with.

4) See photo below - a paper clip wire protruding upwards, completely blocks off the safety from being able to be pushed up.  The other end goes around the pin, then one loop around the lever.  That was a pretty good solution, however if you have to service the gun, you need to remove the wire and create a new one like that.  

5) Alternative to 4 would be to bend up the stock spring end to protrude up, just like in 4.  I feel that would be the best solution, but I don't want to try it since I have only one of those (and being in Canada, it will be difficult to buy a spare).  But if I ever get a spare, that's what I'll do.

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Post by James Hensler Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:12 pm

I did not know you have aftermarket grips. Personally if it was me I would remove the safety and install shims or spacers to take up the slack on the hammer. I would not mention it again and in all my years of shooting matches I have never had an official function test my pistols.
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Post by chiz1180 Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:20 pm

James Hensler wrote:I did not know you have aftermarket grips. Personally if it was me I would remove the safety and install shims or spacers to take up the slack on the hammer. I would not mention it again and in all my years of shooting matches I have never had an official function test my pistols.

At Perry last year when I had my triggers weighed for the EIC's they tested safeties. Same thing when I shot a match a Quantico last year as well.

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Post by corsara Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:27 pm

I wonder what the logic behind having a functional safety for bullseye is. It's certainly not something that is being used as part of the procedures, then why is it even in the rules?

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Post by James Hensler Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:44 pm

chiz1180 wrote:
James Hensler wrote:I did not know you have aftermarket grips. Personally if it was me I would remove the safety and install shims or spacers to take up the slack on the hammer. I would not mention it again and in all my years of shooting matches I have never had an official function test my pistols.

At Perry last year when I had my triggers weighed for the EIC's they tested safeties. Same thing when I shot a match a Quantico last year as well.
Last year at Perry my 45 was chosen to test trigger weight but they never checked for safety. I have never seen anyone’s checked for that. Some pistols don’t even have safeties. Not saying I doubt what you are saying but since 1988 I just haven’t seen it
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