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Alliant BE-86 in 9mm (A bit off-topic)

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Post by Wobbley Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:55 pm

I have been tasked to develop some 9mm training rounds with Hornady 115 XTP bullets for a small local security company.  These rounds will be used for training so they should be similar in velocity to the original Hornady ammo which is 1155.  I have WSF and BE-86.  I can get WSF data, but BE-86 is a conundrum.  The Hornady manual lists max at 5.5 gr at 1150fps.  But Alliant has a max at 6.3 with a muzzle of 1235fps.  That’s enough difference to cause the inquiry.  

Does anyone experience with BE-86 in 9mm?
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Post by S148 Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:16 am

Since you'll be using Hornady's bullets, use their data.  The Alliant data is with a different bullet at a different overall length.

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Post by RoyDean Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:21 am

I have no info or experience with BE-86, sorry.

But your post raises the question - if the reloads are for training of security personnel (presumably at short range "run & gun" style) why are you wasting those expensive and excellent Hornady bullets. Berry's or similar surely would suffice.

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Post by Wobbley Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:37 am

Specified by the agency.  We offered.
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Post by Charliemac Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:53 pm

I load 5.5grs of BE-86, 115 HAP bullets with mixed brass for my general target shooting. They work well in my CZ Tactical Sport.

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Post by Bigtrout Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:32 am

I've used BE-86, Titegroup and CFE in my load developments.  TG and CFE are equivalent and BE-86 groups a little worse at 50 yds. after many hundreds of rounds in my S&W 986-5" and RO 5".  FWIW.
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Post by swissyhawk Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:05 pm

I tried some BE-86 for 9mm last year. I was using zero 115 gr FMJ.  I originally used 5.4, 5.6, and 5.8 gr.   I thought the 5.8 felt a little too snappy in my 1911 service pistol.  I ended up using 5.6.   I don’t have any chrono data or test targets.

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Post by Sc0 Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:28 pm

Have 5.7-6.0gr written down for 115gr, haven't loaded it but think I remember be-86 shooting a bit more accurate with more pressure.

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