Results of Crimp - 38 Spc
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Results of Crimp - 38 Spc
New to reloading. Looking to optimize a 38 Spc load for a M52. Tested several powders with increasing loads. Settled on BE at 2.9 gr. I have a 1:10 twist Clark aftermarket barrel in the M52 and it seemed to group the faster loads better.
Next wanted to test crimp. Here are the results...
50 Yards - Ransom Rest
2.9 BE, 148 gr Zero WCHB, Starline brass
No crimp - 0.375 - Group size 4.5 inches
Roll crimp - 0.365 - Group size 3.5 inches
Roll crimp - 0.360 - Group size 3.0 inches
Roll crimp - 0.355 - Group size 2.0 inches
Taper crimp - 0.363 - Group size 4.0 inches
I was shocked to see such a dramatic difference just from the crimp.
The 0.355 crimp is the tightest the Lee roll crimp die will go. I think it will reduce case life from the wear on the case mouth, but the accuracy gain is really good.
Joe
Next wanted to test crimp. Here are the results...
50 Yards - Ransom Rest
2.9 BE, 148 gr Zero WCHB, Starline brass
No crimp - 0.375 - Group size 4.5 inches
Roll crimp - 0.365 - Group size 3.5 inches
Roll crimp - 0.360 - Group size 3.0 inches
Roll crimp - 0.355 - Group size 2.0 inches
Taper crimp - 0.363 - Group size 4.0 inches
I was shocked to see such a dramatic difference just from the crimp.
The 0.355 crimp is the tightest the Lee roll crimp die will go. I think it will reduce case life from the wear on the case mouth, but the accuracy gain is really good.
Joe
Last edited by lanjo on Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:56 pm; edited 3 times in total
lanjo- Posts : 103
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Re: Results of Crimp - 38 Spc
Looks like you found a winner. Did you notice any difference on bullet yaw?
chiz1180- Posts : 1524
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Re: Results of Crimp - 38 Spc
All the holes were round. I think the installing the 1:10 twist barrel put an end to the bullet tipping.
lanjo- Posts : 103
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Re: Results of Crimp - 38 Spc
Nice results. How many rounds in your group? Thanks.
S148- Posts : 328
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Re: Results of Crimp - 38 Spc
Interesting. I just loaded 50 rounds with a taper crimp. I had been loading a little proud of the case mouth with a light roll crimp , makes me think about roll crimping.
rich.tullo- Posts : 2023
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Re: Results of Crimp - 38 Spc
These are 10 shot groups.
The taper crimp I think could have done better. The problem was that the taper crimp die I have is not adjustable. I can't make the crimp tighter. With the roll crimp die I can make is tighter to a point.
I really did not think crimp was such a big factor. The no crimp rounds would not chamber easily. So, they were a non-starter and just academic. So, you need at least some crimp, but I would not have guessed that the crimp with cut the group size in half. But clearly it does.
The taper crimp I think could have done better. The problem was that the taper crimp die I have is not adjustable. I can't make the crimp tighter. With the roll crimp die I can make is tighter to a point.
I really did not think crimp was such a big factor. The no crimp rounds would not chamber easily. So, they were a non-starter and just academic. So, you need at least some crimp, but I would not have guessed that the crimp with cut the group size in half. But clearly it does.
lanjo- Posts : 103
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Re: Results of Crimp - 38 Spc
Under a low power microscope, I match my crimps to old Federal Red box wadcutters crimp.
Mine match the performance of those old rounds.
Never have got a grip on measuring crimp.
Mine match the performance of those old rounds.
Never have got a grip on measuring crimp.
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