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Post by Multiracer 8/17/2017, 6:27 pm

Specifically for a S&W 52-2
I did a quick search and did not turn up a consensus for factory ammo to start. I see a few recipes to load with which I will do later.
What FPS should I look for in 148G HBSWC ?

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Post by james r chapman 8/17/2017, 7:05 pm

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Post by oldsalt444 8/17/2017, 7:36 pm

Factory Win and Rem load theirs to 710 fps.  Must be a good reason.  Winchester Match is excellent and the bullet  doesn't wobble producing a semi keyhole in the target like others. A bit pricy, though.  

That being said, 2.7 gr. of WST behind a swaged 148 HBWC is considered "the load".  Works great in my 52 and revolver.
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Post by Multiracer 8/17/2017, 7:39 pm

Starline small primer brass ? Who has the correct lead bullet ?

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Post by Wobbley 8/17/2017, 7:47 pm

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The correct lead HBWC is Remington.  Good luck finding those.  

You can get near factory accuracy using Magnus Swaged HBWC, Precision Delta HBWC or Zero swagedHBWc,  as for loads, either 2.7 or 2.8 gr of either WST or Bullseye will work.  You'll need a slight roll crimp just like the factory.

As for factory, Remington, Winchester, and Federal are gold standards.
Magtech, and Sellier & Bellot will do in a pinch.
Fiocchi shoots well but doesn't function in my 52-2.

As always, YMMV.
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Post by Multiracer 8/17/2017, 8:10 pm

Thanks guys,
I just looked at Magnus and did not see this style in swaged.

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Post by Jon Eulette 8/17/2017, 8:24 pm

Magnus 148gr hbwc shot 1.5" from my pistol. Excellent bullets.
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Post by oldsalt444 8/17/2017, 9:08 pm

Magnus 148 HBWC:
http://saas.shopsite.com/magnusbullets/store/page11.html
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Post by james r chapman 8/18/2017, 6:16 am

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Post by BE Mike 8/18/2017, 7:19 am

If I understand you correctly, you are going to begin with factory loaded ammo. If that is the case, you could do worse than Zero. Check them out: http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RZD&Product_Code=R611-A&Category_Code=ZBA-38SP
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Post by Multiracer 8/18/2017, 9:09 am

I will start collecting the components. Thanks guys. Now about that roll crimp vs taper crimp stuff....

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Post by robert84010 8/18/2017, 9:31 am

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601192625/remington-match-bullets-38-caliber-360-diameter-148-grain-lead-hollow-base-wadcutter

this is the bullet that everybody seeks. You are allowed to back order them at Midway right now. I have never seen that so they must be confident they will get the bullets in soon. I got some last month, first time I've ever seen them available anywhere online.

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Post by Wobbley 8/18/2017, 9:32 am

Good results can be had with either, but your 52 will probably prefer a slight roll for feeding purposes.  Look at factory ammo and duplicate that style and amount of crimp.  HBWC swaged bullets don't like too much crimp and I've never used a "Factory Crimp" die.  Just a slight roll as I finish seating the bullet.
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Post by JIMPGOV 8/18/2017, 1:32 pm

USE A REDDING PROFILE CRIMP DIE. IT'S A SLIGHT TAPER AND ROLL CRIMP.  ROLL THE BRASS JUST OVER THE FRONT OF THE BULLET. THIS SEEMS TO WORK IN EVERY MODEL 52 THAT WE'VE TRIED WITH IT. ALSO 2.6 OR 2.7 WST IS JUST ABOUT UNBEATABLE. JP

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Post by jglenn21 8/18/2017, 2:05 pm

Totally agree on the Redding die.. WST is hard to beat in the special. HBWC or DR ammo.
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Post by Multiracer 8/18/2017, 3:40 pm

Got it guys, Thanks again.
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Post by troystaten 8/18/2017, 6:20 pm

From what I have heard that the Remington 148 grain 38 special bullets have been discontinued, they still list the loaded cartridges on the website but I have not seen too many sources for the loaded ammo that have it in stock.   I have used the Precision delta bullets and they seem to shoot well.

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Post by Jon Eulette 8/18/2017, 6:22 pm

Remingtons are still being made. Friend just had a backorder of 6000 delivered.
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Post by troystaten 8/18/2017, 6:24 pm

Nice to hear Jon, I am glad another good product is still available.  Have a nice weekend.

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Post by Multiracer 8/18/2017, 6:35 pm

Jon Eulette wrote:Remingtons are still being made. Friend just had a backorder of 6000 delivered.
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From where were they backordered ?

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Post by Jon Eulette 8/18/2017, 6:37 pm

Multiracer wrote:
Jon Eulette wrote:Remingtons are still being made. Friend just had a backorder of 6000 delivered.
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From where were they backordered ?
Not sure.
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Post by messenger 8/18/2017, 6:57 pm

I just back ordered 2000 from Midway.

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Post by mikemyers 9/3/2017, 3:01 pm

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Post by james r chapman 9/3/2017, 7:53 pm

those will make you very happy..
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Post by oldsalt444 9/5/2017, 3:29 pm

+1 on Magnus Bullets.  Plus, Bullseye-L forum members get a 15% discount.
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