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Post by OldShooter43 Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:48 am

Since I've acquired an S&W 52-1 (love it) I'm going to be loading 148 gr. wadcutter bullets seated flush with the case mouth.  I have a stock of Zero HBWC bullets on hand for that purpose.  However, I can't use bare lead loads at my public indoor range so I'm thinking of using Xtreme Bullets copper plated, double-ended, 148 gr. wadcutters for indoor shooting.  They have a slightly rounded shoulder so I'll have to be careful with the roll crimp, but otherwise it wouldn't seem to be a problem.  Is anyone here loading these bullets flush to the rim?  Any thoughts pro or con?  I've loaded lots of the Xtreme 148 gr. bullets for use in my .38 Special revolvers, but I crimp those in the cannelure rather than seating them flush with the rim.  Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.

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Post by Wobbley Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:13 am

I shot some commercial reloads that used Berry’s plated HBWC.  They had a few fliers in them but that’s the nature of plated bullets.  If it’s all they’ll let you shoot, your kind of stuck but they do function ok.  Use standard powder charges.
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Post by Bmitch996 Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:46 am

I have used Berrys plated 148 gr HBWC in my 52-1 because they don't create a lot of smoke.  This was helpful during sustained fire in league matches at night at that particular range.

They needed to be seated flush, if they had a little too much bullet showing they got hung up in the magazine and wouldn't feed.  I'm not sure where I read this, maybe the Berrys website, but they needed to run a little faster than lead HBWC to be accurate.  I found this to be true. When loaded with my normal load they were not very accurate.  So I increased it to 3.2 gr of Bullseye and that worked.  This was for the short line, I used my standard load/bullet for slow fire.


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Post by OldShooter43 Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:49 am

Do you buy direct from Berry's or use another supplier like Midway?

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Post by David R Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:57 am

If you can , try powder coated bullets.  I am getting real good accuracy from them.  

I have not got good accuray from any plated bullets I have tried.  I do not have a model 52, 
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Post by Bmitch996 Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:03 am

I've purchased them direct from Berrys as well as from the likes of Grafs and Midway.

Like David R said powder coated is a good option, probably cheaper as well.

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Post by OldShooter43 Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:07 am

I haven't found any powder-coated 148 gr. wadcutters so far, but I load 200 gr SWCs in .45 ACP.  Midway has the Berry's 148 gr wadcutters on sale right now for $23.19/250 plus shipping.


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Post by Wobbley Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:12 am

Coated bullets.  

http://missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=236&category=20&secondary=9
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Post by Bmitch996 Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:14 am

Acme Bullet Co.  has coated 148 gr DEWC    www.acmebullet.com

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Post by OldShooter43 Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:15 am

Wobbley & BMitch.  Thanks for the info on coated wadcutters!

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Post by Allgoodhits Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:09 am

Bayou Bullets may be an option. I have loaded many thousands of their "coated" .38 spl 138gr BNWC in a revolver. When driven in the upper 800 fps range they will shoot 2.5" or less at 50 yds out of my guns. Yes, they are 138 gr. Don't know what they will do in 52 or similar platform. Slightly lighter weight may like the slower twist in the 52, compared to the new faster twist approach in custom 52 barrels. YRMV

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Post by OldShooter43 Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:16 am

I think that the nose on the BNWC bullets will prevent them from working in a model 52.  However, they look great for revolver use.

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Post by STEVE SAMELAK Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:48 pm

What harm would there be in loading the BNWC with the button in?
It appears that the base has a slight radius that could be crimped over.
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Post by OldShooter43 Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:56 pm

I don't know the answer to that, but I see no reason to do it since there are better options available.  If I had a couple thousand BNWC bullets lying around I might give it a try, but I don't have any at all.  Maybe someone else might try it just for fun. :0)

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Post by SmokinNJokin Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:06 pm

Will they allow you to use a powder-coated or hi-tek supercoat bullet? If that is the case, it is a much cheaper, more accurate and cleaner alternative. Summers enterprises has a great dewc i have been shooting quite a bit of.

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Post by OldShooter43 Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:38 pm

Yes, they'll allow coated bullets and I'm shooting some coated .45 SWC loads there now. I'll check out the Summers bullets before I buy anything enlarge quantities.  Trying new loads is part of the fun of reloading!  Thanks for the info.  As usual, everyone on this forum is always happy to provide good info.

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