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Berry's copper plated bullets

Post by kredwards on Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:21 am

I am new to reloading and would like a starting point for Berry's 230 gr round nose bullets.  I do not see this type of bullet in the reloading tables.  Do I consider this to be close to lead and start my powder loads from there or do I consider this closer to a FMJ bullet?  The powders I have on hand are American Select, Universal, Varget and Bullseye.

A second question that has come up; are plated bullets considered legal in Bullseye competition?  I have been told that is I get plated SWC bullets, they will be treated as lead SWC's and could be used in indoor range competitions.

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Re: Berry's copper plated bullets

Post by DavidR on Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:33 am

It depends as to legal, if you mean in a regular 2700 bullseye match, then yes you could use them, if you mean in a EIC/cmp type ball gun match then no they are not, those matches require a Full Metal jacket 230 gr. bullet . Berry bullets are considered by a huge majority of shooters to be the worst bullet you can use for target shooting, any good lead bullet will be way more accurate. ?They dont even group good at 25 yards, dont waste your money on them unless plinking at cans is your goal.

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Re: Berry's copper plated bullets

Post by farmboy on Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:29 pm

DavidR wrote:It depends as to legal, if you mean in a regular 2700 bullseye match, then yes you could use them, if you mean in a EIC/cmp type ball gun match then no they are not, those matches require a Full Metal jacket 230 gr. bullet . Berry bullets are considered by a huge majority of shooters to be the worst bullet you can use for target shooting, any good lead bullet will be way more accurate. ?They dont even group good at 25 yards, dont waste your money on them unless plinking at cans is your goal.
+1  good advice,  you will save your self a lot of grief is you stay away from them

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Re: Berry's copper plated bullets

Post by Bryan Coyle on Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:37 pm

I think Rainier's plated are worse - both are poor.  Save them for USPSA or IDPA 'spray'n'pray' matches - accurate enough for those disciplines.

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Re: Berry's copper plated bullets

Post by AllAces on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:43 am

Berry's sent me a sample of their plated, round-nose, hollow base bullets for testing.  I tried numerous loads with BE, Clays, 231, N310 & N320. Nothing grouped well at 25 or 50 yds.  I showed several rounds to some Army pistol team shooters and they quickly determined them to be plated rather than FMJ.

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Re: Berry's copper plated bullets

Post by Bryan Coyle on Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:19 am

You just look at the base - FMJ is bare lead - anything else isn't FMJ.

Berry's, Rainier, Extreme, Speer, Hornady all make some totally encapsulated lead core bullets known by various monikers such as plated, CMJ and TMJ.
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Re: Berry's copper plated bullets

Post by kredwards on Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:00 pm

Thanks to everyone who responded.  I will take your advice and stay away from plated except for plinking.

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