Dane Hogle Recoil Dampening System

Has anyone every tried this and does it work? 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Recoil-Dampening-System-RDS-Dane-Hogle-Technologies-Rail-mounted-/293649742344?_ul=IN

rich.tullo wrote:Has anyone every tried this and does it work? 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Recoil-Dampening-System-RDS-Dane-Hogle-Technologies-Rail-mounted-/293649742344?_ul=IN

 It looks like a tungsten weight and spring thingy people make for 22s, like what Pardini uses on the SP pistols.

It also looks 22 sized, if you know what I mean and I think you do.

It works very well. Mine is an early version maybe even a prototype. The new ones are cosmetically superior. 

They work exceptionally well.

I have two pistols that can accept it, the price is a little high but it would be interesting to see how it works on my PPQ or my Volquartsen.

Think Pardini recoil mitigation, with a twist for any weapon with a lower rail. Good stuff.

Just got off the phone with Dane.  He said you will see approximately a 30% reduction in recoil on a .22.  So I guess the question you have to ask yourself Rich is it worth a 30% reduction in recoil on something that doesn't have much recoil to begin with.

I have one on one of my 22s (Nelson conversion on a steel extended tac rail lower). The recoil impulse is more Pardini like, but with true 1911 ergonomics. I can also change the balance of the gun by moving it on the rail. On occasion I also put it on my polymer guns, smooths out the snap of 9mm. In regards to cost, machining is not cheap, and neither is tungsten. If it is advantageous to you is only something you can answer.

kc.crawford.7 wrote:Just got off the phone with Dane.  He said you will see approximately a 30% reduction in recoil on a .22.  So I guess the question you have to ask yourself Rich is it worth a 30% reduction in recoil on something that doesn't have much recoil to begin with.

Any reduction in recoil of , yes, a 22, is worth incorporating.
Not only will it dampen recoil, it will smooth harmonics. Win win.
It looks nice too.
It would be worth doing on a high accuracy 22 like a Volquartsen which can easily host it.

This is probably a stupid question (but I excel at those) ... would it have any appreciable effect on a 45? I assume not or they would be seen around - just wondering why. Maybe because the effect would be too small in comparison to the recoil?

Definitely works on a 45, the catch is that you need a rail to mount. Orpheoet posted a pic of his 45 with one.

Works exceptionally well on a 45.

OK so there is talk of 33% recoil reduction on a 22 and then pictures of the device on slide-mounted 45s

Are there different models of the device?  Does the 45 get an approximate 33% reduction, or more/less?

Seems to me like a very different amount of energy between the two pistols.  Trying to wrap my head around this.

I would say the 30% reduction is more for CF (9 and 45) than 22. Remember this also depends on your load too, if you are shooting a light load you will not notice as much of a difference.

How much actual weight would it add to a 1911?

Val

I would need to weigh to confirm but if I recall 4-6oz.

A good weight comparison would be a standard 5” wadgun to a 6”longslide, though it would balance more like a standard 5”configuration than a longslide.

It weighs 5.5 ounces.

Or, just put non rescriprocating mass on the front of the gun. Fat barrel, barrel weight, long dust cover, etc...

10sandxs wrote:Or, just put non rescriprocating mass on the front of the gun. Fat barrel, barrel weight, long dust cover, etc...

Who built that? Any more pics of the left side and scope mount?

I built the gun and mount. Im learning how to take good pictures so these were just one I'd snapped for trials. I'm traveling this week, but I can take more once I get back. PM me if I forget by next saturday.

The mount was EDM cut from aluminum bar stock but the concept is all Fred totes, who was very helpfull to me with with advice as I wanted it to match the tritop slide.

Other gun details:
JEM extended dust cover frame
Kkm 6" taper fit profile bushingless barrel
Caspian slide (won't make that mistake again)
Brass muzzle weight
Chrome nitride (CrN) on slide, weight, mount and small parts, DLC on barrel and frame

I would like to make a few points here. 
First the system works on all calibers. 
Through testing it was see an approximately 30 to 35% reduction in recoil. On a .22 with a recoil pulse of 3 pounds, that would be a one pound reduction. Now, can the average person feel that one pound difference? 
On a .45, with a recoil pulse of 30 pounds, that would be a reduction of 
Of 10 pounds. That is a lot easier to feel. 

Second. This is not “ just a weight” there are moving parts and springs . The system works off the Mass damper effect just miniaturized. The nice thing is that you do not have to “ re tune you guns springs “ the RDS is a separate bolt on system, that can quickly be removed and installed on any pistol with a tactical ( light ) rail.  10sandxs pistol while looking interesting just has a weight on the end.

My first intended use was for my Walther PPQ 9mm which really cannot shoot reduced loads with total Bullseye accuracy. 125gn FMJ over 4.2 W231 is still a little snappy for Rapid Fire but with the way the gun is set up it is holding the 25 x ring no problem and should hold the 50 yard 10 ring no problem. However , the recoil is worse then my 45 ACP wadcutter shooting light loads. 

The 22LR was an after thought and I will test it on a Volquartsen Mamba 6 inch which is a very light 22LR. The way I figure,  the Hogle system could really work on that gun which is about 16 ounces lighter than a S&W M41. I run a barrel weight with is good, but I think the Hogle system could help a little with rapid fire. People run comps on these guns which could help also but I do not like having to clean a comp every 100 rounds.